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Asher Tarnopolski
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folks, i'm sure you've been asked about it many times, but i didn't find THE answer...
i wanna learn ejb which i have only a common idea about. what book/edition is the best? this, thinking about architect I certification...
thanks


Asher Tarnopolski
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Matthew Phillips
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I really like Mastering Enterprise Java Beans, 2nd Edition. Check the bunkhouse for a review that gave it 10 horseshoes.


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Asher Tarnopolski
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thank's pal, is it up to date? will it be a good studying guide for taking the j2ee architect I exam?
[ November 20, 2002: Message edited by: Asher Tarno ]
Matthew Phillips
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It covers EJB 2.0. I haven't looked at the requirements for the architect exam so I don't know how well it maps to it.
Billy JK
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As of today, the architect exam doesn't cover EJB 2.0, just 1.1
In a future version of the exam - sometime next year - it will upgrade the requirements to EJB 2.0
When studying for part I of the exam ( took it in october ) I enjoyed more
Enterprise JavaBeans (3rd Edition)
than the Ed Roman book, but both of them are good for the exam.
Billy
Matthew Phillips
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Originally posted by Billy JK:
As of today, the architect exam doesn't cover EJB 2.0, just 1.1
In a future version of the exam - sometime next year - it will upgrade the requirements to EJB 2.0
When studying for part I of the exam ( took it in october ) I enjoyed more
Enterprise JavaBeans (3rd Edition)
than the Ed Roman book, but both of them are good for the exam.
Billy

Is there anything in particular that you liked about Enterprise Javabeans (3rd Edition) over Roman's book?
Asher Tarnopolski
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thank's mathew, i've published this question also on some other (minor ) java desks, and the majority of the folks were talking about these 2 books. i need a book for ejb newbie, who is not new to java, and wants this book to be in the future the architect p.I bible... what would be your choise and why?
thanX
Billy JK
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Joined: Oct 02, 2002
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Is there anything in particular that you liked about Enterprise Javabeans (3rd Edition) over Roman's book?

Well Matthew, I think there were a couple of things that I didn't enjoyed so much in Roman's book. I think there were places were the same info kept repeating in a slightly different form, but were basically the same. And maybe too much - rather simple - code to state things that might be condensed. On the bright side this made the book very easy to read, but sometimes I got the feeling that I might loose the important parts in the middle of a lot of maybe-not-so-important other details. But it might be just a matter of taste ... And, btw, I think the book is still available in pdf format somewhere, theserverside.com maybe ?!
On the other hand, the Monson-Haefel is maybe more concise and uses less filling, but it is probably a little harder to digest.

Billy.
AJAY RANA
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Well ! I am also preparing for SCEA and following both the books.
I fully agree with Billy that Ed Roman is very easy to follow/digest than Monson's. I can't say much on the content relevance of the books , but for a newbie I would strongly suggest Ed Roman otherwise it is very easy to lose interest in Monson's book .
One reason can be that i started with Ed Roman first !
Regards,
Ajay Rana
SCJP,SCWCD
Matthew Phillips
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Thanks for your perspective on it, Billy. I think I will go check that book out.
Asher Tarnopolski
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thank's people, it seems i have to begin with ed rodman's book. i'll see if i'll need to move to another one later.
thank you once more for help and time.
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