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J2EE book input requested

Solveig Laura Haugland
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Joined: Oct 24, 2000
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Hi all,
Kathy and Bert, of the McGraw Hill Java cert study guide, told me they'd gotten kick-ass feedback on their chapters so I was wondering if I'd be lucky enough to get the same kind of help.
I'm writing a book for Manning that's basically "Not Just J2EE". Only it's Just J2EE. It's an overview for beginners, and semitechies like blackbox QA and techwriters, who don't quite know what application servers do, what the point is of J2EE, etc. Also potentially for C or VB programmers just getting started with J2EE.
Now, obviously y'all are beyond that but you've all gone through the process of learning and probably remember misconceptions you had, good analogies you picked up, etc. If anyone like that would like to review a chapter or two, that'd be great. Your name (if you want) will of course appear in the book, perhaps as an expert Harley-riding J2EE programmer or at least in the acknowledgements.
I'll be posting the chapters soon, and will post another email to let you know then.
In the mean time, let me know if you've got good analogies, key points, illuminating explanations, or anything else that you owe your knowledge of J2EE to.
Thanks!
Solveig
Author of "OpenOffice.org Companion" and "StarOffice Companion"
www.getopenoffice.org
Rahul Mahindrakar
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Joined: Jul 28, 2000
Posts: 1850
Hi Solveig,
Will help you out. Can you tell which chapters are available for review so that I can check which I can select.
Thanks
Rahul
Tina Coleman
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Joined: Dec 12, 2001
Posts: 150
I'm definitely interested in being a "Harley-riding J2EE programmer", whether you list me as an expert or not!
Axel Janssen
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Joined: Jan 08, 2001
Posts: 2164
I am interested.
I am not a super-expert.
I've prepaired and gave a 1-day-but-full-packed-with-stuff training with my own examples in december (for IBM Websphere). Not much sleep in the last week of preparation. To my relief the external participants of the training did not kill me.
One thing came to my mind when during the afternoon I tried to explain concept of EJB.
How to explain EJB to people without people getting headache???
I have no answer. I remember having headache myself when I was in my first and only EJB-training.
Maybe you have a solution.

Its way easier to explain J2EE patterns like MVC or facade or data access object than what ejb is about.
[ January 07, 2003: Message edited by: Axel Janssen ]
Solveig Laura Haugland
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Joined: Oct 24, 2000
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Wow! Great, thanks for the responses.
I've just checked with my editor and I need to collect nondisclosure forms from everyone who reads any of it but I think that'll be relatively simple.
Here's a brief overview.
The book takes the reader from "so why in the world would I need anything, much less J2EE and I don't really know what that is, really" through to what app servers do, what entity beans etc. are, writing a very simple bean, then through to related services, talking about what in the world Web services and SOAP (bleagh) are, etc. It's not a book your grandmother would understand but anyone nonJava-y in the tech world should be able to get it.
I appreciate the help.
Tina, I'll put you down as Harley Riding J2EE Expert #2. ;>
Here's an example of the tone of the book, the general approach, so you don't expect anything too serious and code-filled. For instance, re the different types of beans. Entity beans are big dumb weightlifters, just standing around holding stuff, thinking they're really important. Stateless session beans are slutty fun types and stateful session beans are slightly-too-faithful types. (Not to make wild sexist generalizations or anything. ;> ) While it would be fun to say that the server is the pimp, I'm just going with saying the server is one hell of an office manager, and it had better be since these beans are kind of dumb.
That's the general tone of the book. ;> Nothing to make you knit your brow and go hmmm...yeah...I think I get it....
Oh, btw, I'm only semitechy myself, and am writing this with Mark Cade, coauthor of the Sun Architect Exam study guide. He makes sure it's accurate, I make sure it's clear.

I'll get my act together, send out the nondisclosures, and let y'all know when stuff is ready.
Thanks,
Solveig
Chris Mathews
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Joined: Jul 18, 2001
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You can put me on your list. I would be up for reviewing a few chapters.
[ January 07, 2003: Message edited by: Chris Mathews ]
JeanLouis Marechaux
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Joined: Nov 12, 2001
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Solveig,
If you need someone else, I volunteer.
I'm far more a techie than an english reviewer, so it's up to you to decide whether or not you need that kind of help.


/ JeanLouis<br /><i>"software development has been, is, and will remain fundamentally hard" (Grady Booch)</i><br /> <br />Take a look at <a href="http://www.epfwiki.net/wikis/openup/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Agile OpenUP</a> in the Eclipse community
Simon Brown
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A high level J2EE book sounds like a great idea - count me in too and let us know if there's anything that the 'ranch can do to help.
Cheers
Simon
Sam Dalton
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Joined: Jul 26, 2001
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Count me in. Sounds liek a book some of my project managers should have read
Cheers
Sam


<a href="http://www.samjdalton.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Sam Dalton</a>,<br />Co-author of [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1590592255/qid=1068633302//ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i0_xgl14/104-4904002-9274339?v=glance&s=books&n=507846]Professional JSP 2.0[/URL] (October 2003)<br />Co-author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1861007701/ref=ase_electricporkchop" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Professional SCWCD Certification</a><br />Co-author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/186100561X/ref=ase_electricporkchop" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Professional Java Servlets 2.3</a>
Solveig Laura Haugland
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Thanks, Simon, Sam, Martin (what's your email?), et al.
I'm thinking I'll have chapters to look at in 3 weeks or so. I appreciate your help.
Just wanted to reinforce that the book is definitely for newbies. There's a prequel chapter where I explain the JVM, and in a regular
chapter I also explain OO and how separation of concerns is good.
With luck, project managers all over the world will be reading it! (That's the plan, anyway. ;> )
Solveig
solveig@getopenoffice.org
Pauline McNamara
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If you don't already have enough eager readers, I'd be glad to play newbie reviewer - it's pretty much where I am anyway. (Done a few servlets, but don't know beans about beans. )
Cheers,
Pauline
pauline@javaranch.com
[ January 13, 2003: Message edited by: Pauline McNamara ]
trupti nigam
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count me in..
trupti
George Georgiadis
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Joined: Apr 28, 2002
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I would like also to be part of that list. I can contribute by reviewing some of these chapters.
Regards
George Georgiadis
ggeorgiadis@yahoo.com
[ January 14, 2003: Message edited by: George Georgiadis ]

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Amal Gupta Java Guy
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Joined: Feb 10, 2003
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Dear Solveig:
Pleased to know that you are authoring book targeted to "Beginners for JAva" and will be glad to be the part of the review team
Just wondering if there could be focus on Java Architect Certification as well. Even some guidelines will also be beneficial becos I know covering Certification will be a book on its own.
Maybe some questions can be included at end of each chapters to give some feel of the certification as well.
Will wait to hear from you
Regards
Amal
Solveig Laura Haugland
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Posts: 377
Hi,
It's ready to go! Just send me an email at solveig@getopenoffice.org confirming the items below, then I'll send you the URL where the files are.
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Please verify that:
1) you are not employed by a publisher and are not
currently writing a book on a similar topic.

2) you will not reproduce it or use it for any purpose other than to review its contents for us until after this book is published.
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I'm writing the book with Mark Cade, the co-author of the Sun Architect exam and the Sun Architect certification study guide. So there's definitely some insight into what makes a good architecture, how to balance qualities of service like availability and performance vs security and reliability, firewalls, alternatives to the traditional 4-tier architecture, etc.
However, it's not specifically targeted at certification since it's a book for Regular People, and techie people who have no exposure to J2EE. One of our reviewers did say he would recommend it to all the other architects he works with since it gives a broad overview of the issues involved, but I think we'll stop short of specifically mentioning architect certification. If for no other reason than to not cannibalize sales of Mark's certification study guide. ;>
Thanks for writing! Send me that nondisclusure email and I'll wing that URL to you.
solveig

Originally posted by Amal Gupta Java Guy:
Dear Solveig:
Pleased to know that you are authoring book targeted to "Beginners for JAva" and will be glad to be the part of the review team
Just wondering if there could be focus on Java Architect Certification as well. Even some guidelines will also be beneficial becos I know covering Certification will be a book on its own.
Maybe some questions can be included at end of each chapters to give some feel of the certification as well.
Will wait to hear from you
Regards
Amal
Shadab Khan
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Joined: Jul 11, 2002
Posts: 20
iam definitely interested...count me in too
Solveig Laura Haugland
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Joined: Oct 24, 2000
Posts: 377
Originally posted by Troy Smith:
iam definitely interested...count me in too

Great! Just send me an email at solveig@getopenoffice.org confirming the items below, then I'll send you the URL where the files are.
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Please verify that:
1) you are not employed by a publisher and are not
currently writing a book on a similar topic.
2) you will not reproduce it or use it for any purpose other than to review its contents for us until after this book is published.
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