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Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:
HeadFirstEJB is not yet out.
Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:
Why is book called "bitter ejb"?
Originally posted by Rufus BugleWeed:
Have you read this book Chris?
Originally posted by Mike Southgate:
I'll be teaching myself EJB shortly. At what point in my learning should I consider getting this book? I understand that the book's not a nuts-and-bolts how-to but rather an implementation guide. I find, however, that very often you can spin your wheels pretty quickly when learning something simply because your trying to do something the hard way.
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Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:
Why is book called "bitter ejb"?
Originally posted by Vedhas Pitkar:
I think the right time to buy this book would be when you have fully understood the EJB concept,worked on it for a few weeks,designed a project and then if you want to know where you went wrong ,this book would make a good reference.Right?
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So you recommend that he screw up in a real project before attempting to learn? That sounds like crazy talk to me... :roll:
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Originally posted by Lasse Koskela:
Sometimes that's the only way people agree that they need to learn something. I have seen the "we're ok (actually we're f*ed but I'm afraid to admit it)" in meetings sooo many times and I have only been in the industry for some 4 years.
So you recommend that he screw up in a real project before attempting to learn? That sounds like crazy talk to me...
Originally posted by Andres Gonzalez:
I think you should read a book on EJB and then combine bitter EJB with a design patterns book.
Originally posted by Vedhas Pitkar:
We dont realize that we have made a mistake unless we make a mistake in the first place.Sounds philosophical,but true.
And after all,you dont expect to get everything perfect in the first go,do you.?
Some mistakes cost a lot. It is better to avoid mistakes.
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Originally posted by Lasse Koskela:
Some mistakes are worth the pain. Thus, it is even better to embrace mistakes and learn from them.
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Originally posted by Lasse Koskela:
Sounds very interesting, Bob. You wouldn't happen to have any sample source to distribute, would you?
There are just better and simpler persistence frameworks out there in JDO (eg. Kodo), OJB, Hibernate, etc.
Originally posted by HS Thomas:
Though I wonder what the early adopters are doing.
[ August 14, 2003: Message edited by: HS Thomas ]
Though I wonder what the early adopters are doing.
Author of Test Driven (2007) and Effective Unit Testing (2013) [Blog] [HowToAskQuestionsOnJavaRanch]
Is abstractions another word for refactorings ?
Author of Test Driven (2007) and Effective Unit Testing (2013) [Blog] [HowToAskQuestionsOnJavaRanch]
posted by Crazy Bob:
Originally posted by HS Thomas:
Though I wonder what the early adopters are doing.
[ August 14, 2003: Message edited by: HS Thomas ]
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AOP
Entity beans prohibit true OO domain models
Originally posted by HS Thomas:
Do you mean you can't model concepts like inheritance ?
Originally posted by HS Thomas:
You seem to have been run through the mill, doing what sounds like the hard way.
Originally posted by HS Thomas:
If you don't mind my asking, what are you working on now ?
EJB 2.0, AOP ?
Originally posted by HS Thomas:
Also , it seems to me that doing new things like Component Based Development, Test Driven Development might need adjustment of pre-conceived OO design principles. Do you have any advice or links which will not make it as painful as it was for you ? (In addition to what you have included in the Bitter EJB book. Darn missed out on that giveaway ) This question is for the other Authors also.
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Originally posted by HS Thomas:
You seem to have been run through the mill, doing what sounds like the hard way.
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How so?
Originally posted by HS Thomas:
Thanks for the other pointers given here also.
Originally posted by HS Thomas:
Is there a story behind the Crazy Bob handle you'd like to share ?
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