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abhishek roy
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Joined: Jun 08, 2006
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Hi Ranchers,
I need some advice from you. Actually I had earlier submitted my resignation around 20 days back and in it I had put that I will be leaving the company within 30 days. The then Project Manager had verbally agreed that he will relieve me within 45 days. However now the PM has changed and in the mean time I have finished off with the Knowledge Handover.

Instead of relieving me , he is now putting me into a new assignment where the delivery is very soon. I personally do not want to take up this assignment. Moreover he is saying that according to company policy he will not relieve me within 90 days.

This has caused me utter mental imbalance as I will be losing a very very good offer from my hand.

What do I do?? With this in mind definitely I will not be ever productive if I do continue with this work. Where is the motivation factor??

Kindly need advice on this. Any suggestions from your side will be deeply appreciated.

regards,
Abhishek




regards,<br />Abhishek
Pradeep bhatt
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Joined: Feb 27, 2002
Posts: 8919

what is the notice period ?


Groovy
abhishek roy
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Joined: Jun 08, 2006
Posts: 78
90 days!! But I have seen my friends leaving in 45 days.
Kj Reddy
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Joined: Sep 20, 2003
Posts: 1704
Originally posted by abhishek goswamy:
90 days!! But I have seen my friends leaving in 45 days.


Abhishek if company policy says 90 days notice period, it is upto your boss to relive you before the notice period. Your better to convince your present boss explaining that as your previous boss ready to relieve you in 45 days you had made some commitments and request him to relive in 45 days. Take your previous manager help. If your present manager do not accept there is no alternatives except completing the notice period.

Good Luck
Srishal SA
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Joined: Jul 25, 2006
Posts: 7
I hope you have something written (email or hard copy) of resignation accetpance by PM. If you just had a verbal communication with PM then you can only request him to keep his word and tell hime that you made these commitments on the basis of earlier release date.
Pradeep bhatt
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Joined: Feb 27, 2002
Posts: 8919

Managers working all software companies are know to play politics.

abhishek,
If you move to another company it will be same. If you want to survice start playing politics.
Satchit Anand
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Joined: Sep 06, 2006
Posts: 35
Remember, there is ALWAYS an alternative

1) Talk to your manager and tell him exactly what you posted here: that you made commitments based on the verbal commitment of the previous manager. That you will do your best but it will probably be counter-productive.
(Don't make it sound like a threat). Remember, everyone will listen to reason.

2) Take the help of your previous manager and ask him to convince the present manager

3) Talk with the boss of your manager and do step 1 again with him/her.

4) Consider also talking with your HR manager/ CEO. HR personnel will be more considerate as they can understand the mental aspects better.

5) If these do not work, it means the project is very important and cannot be completed without your help. You are indispensable. Then talk to your next employer and see if they can extend your joining date to a later date.
This will also give a good impression to them that you will not leave anyone stranded.
6) If this also not possible, weigh what is more important for you, calculate the risks of taking a rebellious step, and proceed with caution.

Good luck!
abhishek roy
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Joined: Jun 08, 2006
Posts: 78
Many thanks fellow ranchers. I have taken all your advice into account. Today morning I sent an email to my Team Lead stating my unwillingness to take up a new assignment. However I was told that it is you who doesnt decide but it is the management who decides.

Earlier I had asked the future employer about the extension of date, and they extended it from 30 days to 45 days. Now again if I ask I do not think that they will accept it because of their ongoing projects criticality.

Currently, I am in a state of confusion! My offer will go and due to the management I have lost a vital oppurtunity.

I am planning to walk out after serving my 30 days.

thanks guys for your inputs. It is really appreciated.
Pradeep bhatt
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Joined: Feb 27, 2002
Posts: 8919

Also, keep in touch with your new company HR .
Kj Reddy
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Joined: Sep 20, 2003
Posts: 1704
Originally posted by abhishek goswamy:

Earlier I had asked the future employer about the extension of date, and they extended it from 30 days to 45 days. Now again if I ask I do not think that they will accept it because of their ongoing projects criticality.

Talk with your future employer again and explain them the situation. They should be able to understand. No one would like to loose talent so they will defiinitely asks you to join as possible.


Currently, I am in a state of confusion! My offer will go and due to the management I have lost a vital oppurtunity.

Don't worry you don't loose the opportunity.


I am planning to walk out after serving my 30 days.


That is not right solution. Moreover you may not get reliving letter and may get other problems too.
abhishek roy
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Joined: Jun 08, 2006
Posts: 78
Thanks Mr. Reddy,
Maybe I ll take a break now and think over this hard in this weekend. I was thinking if I am sticking around for 90 days then no point in taking up the new assignment right??
Pradeep bhatt
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Joined: Feb 27, 2002
Posts: 8919

Never join a company which requires more than 30 days notice period. I think even TCS has 90 days notice period.
M Movilogo
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Joined: Feb 17, 2006
Posts: 63
TCS indeed has 90 days notice period and if you just returned from onsite it is 180 days [incredible!].

However, it all depends on case to case basis. Many people leave without completion for entire formal notice period.

A good company never tries to play tricks with who wants to leave!

Once you told your old company that you want to leave, the road there simply ended for you. They are just showing their naked attitude by trying to bully you.

Don't lose an opportunity by trying to win a losing battle! Starting afresh is better than trying to fix a broken thing.
Edisandro Bessa
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Joined: Jan 19, 2006
Posts: 584
As Satchit said, there's ALWAYS an alternative.

I already faced a similiar situation. Even worse ! My previous boss did not want to relieve me within 30 days as agreed before, he "asked me" to leave only after 45 days and my new boss did not accept to extend my admission for more 15 days due to critial projects in progress.

Of course I wouldn't like to lose my new job just because it was a VERY GOOD opportunity.

So, after talk to both sides with no success, I decided to give it a final shot :

I suggested to work a half period (in the morning) for my previous company and another half period (in the afternoon) for my new company during the first 15 days of admission.

Both accepted and everyone lived happy forever !
[ September 15, 2006: Message edited by: Edisandro Bessa ]

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Rajesh Patel
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Joined: Aug 14, 2006
Posts: 54
Edisandro,

Great ! What happened to 15days salary ?Did you get it from both companies and how did you join new company without relieving letter from previous company


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Edisandro Bessa
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Joined: Jan 19, 2006
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Rajesh,

Basically, I made a deal with my previous employer in which I would work for free during these 15 days (half period) if they could be able to give a relieving letter as soon as possible.

On the other hand, I settled with my new employer that I would charge only the effective time I worked during the first 15 days. (Which is fair for sure)

So, in the end of the month, I received no money from my previous employer for working during 15 days (half period), but I received from my new employer something about 75% of my new full salary(Haf period during the first 15 days (25%) plus 50% in the remaining 15 days working full time).

In practice, as my new salary was about 40% more than my previous one, I ended receiving more money than if I was working for my previous company.

In order words, even working 15 days for free for my previous employer it still was profitable for me.
alfred jones
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Joined: Apr 19, 2005
Posts: 279
i personally dont like to work in a company who has 90 days notice period.
there are some times when you might want to leave because of job disatisfaction , political issues , better opportunities etc ....you need to wait for 90 days !..... its a tricky company policy to keep people in the same company....try to avoid accepting this kind of offer if possible.
Deepak Bala
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So, after talk to both sides with no success, I decided to give it a final shot :

I suggested to work a half period (in the morning) for my previous company and another half period (in the afternoon) for my new company during the first 15 days of admission.

Both accepted and everyone lived happy forever !


Dude ! Brilliant. Good solution.


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