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We are looking at China now.
only one in four engineering graduates to be employable. The rest were deficient in the required technical skills, fluency in English or ability to work in a team or deliver basic oral presentations.
fluency in English
basic oral presentations
The problem has been identified and this problem also branches to another
This situation makes a market where good engineers can demand a lot of money.
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Originally posted by Rachil Chandran:
Both engineers from India and China are proficient ans skilled. Saying anything else would be an insult to these professionals.
Originally posted by Rachil Chandran:
Maybe (or maybe not) more soft skill oriented courses in the curriculum would address this problem. Atleast it will be step in the right direction.
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Originally posted by Rachil Chandran:
Also, do you think the lack of 'soft skill courses in curriculum' stems from the fact that people charting the curriculum are purely academic.
Would it make a difference, say, if you have adequate representation from the industry in commitees deciding on curriculum?
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Originally posted by Manish Hatwalne:
Very interesting topic....woud love to add inputs, but a bit later...overloaded with work now.
- Manish
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If you have adequate representation from the industry in commitees deciding on curriculum
Originally posted by Ramesh Choudhary:
I strongly object to presence of 'people from industry' in academia.
Originally posted by Ramesh Choudhary:
we can expect a new species of engineers who are no more than glorified mechanics and carpenters with a ton of soft skills(and with zero theoroetical concept).
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Just imagine a generation of engineers with great artistry of programming languages and zero knowledge of Theoroetical Computer Science.
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Most academic research is done to improve society
Originally posted by Ramesh Choudhary:
True. But one needs to look at future. Industry dominated academia concentrates on research that is too practical and readily marketable.
If the day comes as you envisage, there may not be any quality talent in true fundamental research. They are either snatched by the industry or have lost the ability to think deep.
Originally posted by Ramesh Choudhary:
Industry should invest in employee by teaching him/her necessary soft skills. 'People from Industry' expect fresh engineers to be readily deployable '.war' file with all the .properties files tuned to their needs. Believe me, this tuning has to be done in the industry itself. Not in the academy.One should not expect to rake profits on engineers from day one.
Originally posted by Ramesh Choudhary:
If some one enters my university and starts emphasizing on soft skills i would rather avoid her lectures. Soft-Skills vary from culture to culture and are too difficult to be packaged into a standard course. I would prefer acquiring them by 'hands-on' experience rather than a compact course curriculum.
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Even 6-7 years back, there were very few good engineering colleges in India and that too mostly run by state governments.
The politicans are just creating more engineers and giving public false sense of "plenty of jobs" feeling.
Also, the top IT companies in India earlier used to conduct moderate level of screening during interview. Nowadays they set a target like "we have to recruit 100 personnel today by hook or crook".
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