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Stan James
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Ranch Hand

Joined: Jan 29, 2003
Posts: 8791
I've been a troubled lately by some responses to new members that I thought were a bit harsh. It is good to encourage folks to use Google and other resources to the fullest, but I'm afraid we're coming down too hard on the folks we want to welcome in. Any thoughts from the moderators?

A good question is never answered. It is not a bolt to be tightened into place but a seed to be planted and to bear more seed toward the hope of greening the landscape of the idea. John Ciardi
Ernest Friedman-Hill
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Joined: Jul 08, 2003
Posts: 24189

That's the Prime Directive here at the Ranch:, and everyone who has registered here has clicked a button saying they agree to follow the number one rule:

Be Nice.

I (and the other staff) am always willing to receive PMs reporting not-nice behavior. Your complaints will be kept confidential, and we'll do what we can to resolve the problem quuickly and nicely.

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Gregg Bolinger
GenRocket Founder
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Joined: Jul 11, 2001
Posts: 15302

You know, a simple Google search would reveal that this is a friendly place for Java Greenhorns. :roll:

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fred rosenberger
lowercase baba

Joined: Oct 02, 2003
Posts: 11853

And I think that goes for when MODERATORS aren't being nice, either. I'll admit to occasionally being a little grumpy when i've just gotten out of bed and see another post by someone with a bad screen name, or who has posted the question in multiple forums. (yes, this means I usually check the ranch before I have my morning coffee).

Everyone should feel free to report ANYBODY's 'not nice' behavior to a bartender or a sherrif.

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Bear Bibeault
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Joined: Jan 10, 2002
Posts: 63195

Exactly, even when instructing someone that a google search would be a better approach for broad questions such as "What is Ajax?" (a recent favorite), "please"s and "thank you"s should still be used.

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Ilja Preuss

Joined: Jul 11, 2001
Posts: 14112
Originally posted by Bear Bibeault:
Exactly, even when instructing someone that a google search would be a better approach for broad questions such as "What is Ajax?" (a recent favorite), "please"s and "thank you"s should still be used.

Agreed, although I'm sure I am guilty of sometimes being too shortspoken. It's good to get a reminder from time to time.

So if you see me being grumpy, feel free to tell me directly - it's valuable feedback to me!

The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny - it is the light that guides your way. - Heraclitus
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