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I think i will give up!! am i wise?? :(

Kalyani Nemala
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Joined: Nov 30, 2006
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Hi,
I m a computer science engineer graduated in 2005. Ever since i have been working in avery reputed company.

I'm trying to decide between two jobs, i'll describe the companies and job below; what are your thoughts?

I m working in one of the biggest companies in India. But fortunately/unfortunately i am deciding to quit this organization. It would be really helpful if you put your thoughts forward and help me take a wise

Present company:
1. I have 1.5 years of experience in the industry (started my career in this organization) and ever since i have been working on documentation and quality testing. I m not given any opportunity to work on any technology.
2. My appraisals have been screwed up because i refused to work on such projects.
3. During this period, i have completed 2 sun certifications.
1. sun certified Java Programmer 1.4
2. Sun Certified web component developer 1.4
But still i am not given any Java project. For all the efforts that i made they have given me a maintenance project though not in Java.
4. Now they have initiated my H1 visa, they might send me onsite for 1 year+ but only after another year.

Offered Company:
1. Now i have an offer from another reputed company. But the role is not a Java developer. It is totally a different technology where the transition becomes very difficult.
2. Pay is very high compared to present company.

Now, i want to decide if i have to stick with my present company waiting for the onsite offer and hoping for a java project some day or should i go ahead and change my technology and choose the company that is offering me?

I m thinking of joining the company that is offering me. Am i taking a wise decision?? please advice.
Pradeep bhatt
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What is the point in moving to other company with no Java work. Dont just go by salary alone. After few months you will be dissatisfied. Wait for better opportunity.


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Ali Hussain
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What dont you look for a Java job? In the current market, it should not be a problem for you to find a Java job that pays well.


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Srikanth Basa
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After reading the whole story, I feel, It all started as you got frustated by the kind of work. Now that the other company offered you very good compensation, you simply got attracted by the pay package and the work became secondary.

First, be sure on what you need - Work or Pay or Onsite (or all ).

Onsite

If you are keen on "Onsite" then your current company is ready to offer you so that should be a good option.

Work

As you have cleared two certifications, I would say, speak to your manager and ask him to assign you some good Java work. If that doesn't workout then you can always think about Job hopping.

If you want to work on Java/J2EE then I'll suggest you to lookout for another offer.

Pay

When you go for a job-hop, your pay would definitely get increased. But it may vary slightly from company to company. Knowing what you deserve is the key to better bargaining. I guess this is your first and only offer so remember that the first offer need not be the best offer.
[ March 21, 2007: Message edited by: Srikanth Basavaraju ]
Vasu MuraliKrishnan
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You have mentioned that you are working in a big organisation. What i would suggest you is that you stick on with your present company and don't go to the new organisation (after all they don't provide you Java work either).
Your manager is not your boss
You can always approach your resource group and ask for another project. Big companies have that kind of setup. Speak to your HR and senior managers about your aspiration and career...If all falls into deaf ear...quit
But make sure you follow your aspiration and not money
Kj Reddy
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Where ever you go the situation will be similar. So don't leave your present company just for money. The new company may tell you so many things to attract you but actual situation might be different.

I suggest you to continue to work in the same company and try to convince your management to get the work you desire.

Good luck
[ March 22, 2007: Message edited by: KJ Reddy ]
Ketan Joshi
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HI,

KJ Reddy- reading typo
She is not working on Documentum.She has to do documentation


I feel a better option would be to look for a job in some smaller company

As some one said its all the same in all companies.So no point in shifting to another big company

May be smaller companies is better because there usually we get to do better work.Some times we develop, test and support like a 1 man show

And there are smaller companies which pay better than branded ones

Use the 1.5 experience tag as if it was all Java development throughout and with scjp and scwcd, its not going to be tough at all
Also you can use the brand name of your current big company

Or best would be to stick to the same company for another 6 months and search for jobs with 2 years experience tag.I think this will be better
Kj Reddy
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Originally posted by Ketan Joshi:
HI,

KJ Reddy- reading typo
She is not working on Documentum.She has to do documentation



Ketan, thanks for correcting me.
Kalyani Nemala
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Joined: Nov 30, 2006
Posts: 9
I want to add on few more things:

I talked to my manager and also my manager's manager many a times. As a result of which my appraisals have been screwed but no action has been taken in project allocation. I am not following money but I am just desperate of getting out this place!!

Thank you friends. [ ]

Thanks a lot for your valuable suggestions.
Rahul Bhattacharjee
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Flowchart :

1> Wait in the current company for H1B .
2> Go to US.
3> Change employer and join a company which works on Java.


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Kalyani Nemala
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Thanks Rahul.

But visa is initiated in this month. In my organization it means they wil send me to US in the same month but next year!! May i know your ideas now.
Kj Reddy
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Originally posted by Kalyani Nemala:
Thanks Rahul.

But visa is initiated in this month. In my organization it means they wil send me to US in the same month but next year!! May i know your ideas now.


Any way it will take 6 months to 8 months to get the Visa. Atleast you need to wait till Oct for your visa.
Rahul Bhattacharjee
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Yes , it will take some time.But after you reach US , you can change your employer , I mean H1B transfer.But this way you will be ditching your employer..If you are able to do this , then go ahead.
Jignesh Patel
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But visa is initiated in this month. In my organization it means they wil send me to US in the same month but next year!! May i know your ideas now.


I would say waiting for 6-8 month is not a big deal, your money loss will be covered, moreover you will get the work you want.

My experience is, when I was in India the big companies don't prefert to hire because I am B.Sc. and when now I am in US, I got couple of offers from India's largest MNCs to work as an architect.

I still not have very huge experience from US perspective, but they liked the same edjucation and experience to be considered as architect, which they even didn't like to call for interview in India.

-Just a mindset problem.
[ March 23, 2007: Message edited by: Jignesh Patel ]
Ketan Joshi
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Hey KJ Reddy,I didnt mean to correct you.
Actually I work on Documentum and even I had once got confused.So it just caught my attention very quickly.

Hope you didnt mind it.
Rahul Bhattacharjee
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Originally posted by Jignesh Patel:


I would say waiting for 6-8 month is not a big deal, your money loss will be covered, moreover you will get the work you want.

My experience is, when I was in India the big companies don't prefert to hire because I am B.Sc. and when now I am in US, I got couple of offers from India's largest MNCs to work as an architect.

I still not have very huge experience from US perspective, but they liked the same edjucation and experience to be considered as architect, which they even didn't like to call for interview in India.

-Just a mindset problem.

[ March 23, 2007: Message edited by: Jignesh Patel ]


Yes , in India companies stops at qualification , no matter what you know technically.
Kalyani Nemala
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Joined: Nov 30, 2006
Posts: 9
Hi friends,

Thanks a lot for your valuable suggestions. I wanted to let everyone know what i have decided.

My visa application has been withdrawn from my current company. Also, the new company has cancelled my job offer because they didn't get the project for which they hired me..

Now i m not left with any choice to take a decision..
Ketan Joshi
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Joined: Oct 09, 2005
Posts: 66
Thats not the best of news.But none the less,dont get disappointed as its not the end of the world

It would have been worse had you accepted the new job and then if the project had not come

Sometimes doing nothing is a good option.Let some time pass away.

Refresh your skills in this time and then apply again

All the best
 
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