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Why are there so many Indians in IT?

Jay Dilla
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And when did the Indian IT boom start?
I know there are a billion people in India, but it seems like ALOT of them are doing IT work. and its men AND women who are interested in IT work, in america it's mostly a male position.
What were most indian people doing for work before the IT boom?
Do you think most Indian people do IT work because it is most available...or do all these people from the same country really like the work THAT much?
I guess in america it's different because even if there is a huge demand people will still only choose to do what they want to do.
For instance in America there is a HUGE demand for nurses, believe it or not but the average nurse salary is higher then the salary of software developer! And if you have proper schooling you are pretty much gauranteed a job in nursing...yet no one wants to be a nurse so there is STILL a drought of nurses in the workforce here in america.

anyway i just think it's amazing how so many people from the same country want to do the same type of work, and i'm just wondering if it's because its part of the culture and they WANT to do it...or if it's because it's the best way to be gainfully employed in that country
Kishore Dandu
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I will try to dig into some details.

1. No offense to nursing, majority of people from India sub-continent consider IT as a nicer option compared to nursing.

2. It is the opportunity that drives people towards IT. There is immediate reward after some pains. In case of doctors the effort duration is long before you see rewards.

3. You may be only looking at it from IT perspective. There is indian majority in motel ownership. Also there are a bunch of them praticing in medicine(although the visa situation is tougher on that compared to IT). You will encounter many doctors of Indian origin practising in rural settings.

4. In the generation upto generation X(present educating class) there is drive from the parents to go towards either Engineering or medical profession. Only in metros like bombay there is some free thought process injected into kids to pursue other fields.


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Devesh H Rao
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Originally posted by Jay Dilla:


anyway i just think it's amazing how so many people from the same country want to do the same type of work,


Out of the millions of graduates coming out of the indian education system... IT totally employs around 3-4 million as of this years figures. (I do not have the exact figures but have previously posted a link in some other post)

On the contrary Railways which is a government department employs as much as the whole IT sector.

There were around 11 million jobs created in india in the last few years so I guess there is more to India than just IT.

You get to see a whole lot of indians coz I guess we make up 1/6'th of the worlds population... come down here sometime you will see a whole lot more everywhere

I guess there will be more doctors in india than people in IT. unfortunately most of them want "onsite" assignments just like some of my IT friends.

Though the point you raised about women in IT is something which has struck me sometime back as well. But i guess its not surprising given that most of the board toppers happen to be female and IT kind of takes the cream from the colleges.
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Jay Dilla
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Ok, so what i'm gathering is that the indian workforce is actually quite diverse...but i'm only seeing IT worker indians because they are being put onshore alot now and alot of the offsource people i encounter are indian (example:call center help desk people).
I figured there might be a number of Indian doctors out there, but I think in america there is a limited number of medical school exams given per year and within that number an even smaller amount is allowed to foriegners
Devesh H Rao
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Originally posted by Jay Dilla:
Ok, so what i'm gathering is that the indian workforce is actually quite diverse...but i'm only seeing IT worker indians because they are being put onshore alot now and alot of the offsource people i encounter are indian (example:call center help desk people).
I figured there might be a number of Indian doctors out there, but I think in america there is a limited number of medical school exams given per year and within that number an even smaller amount is allowed to foriegners


The majority of workforce is still agriculture based...with services catching up over and manufacturing being a close third.

Its something like india seems to have skipped the manufacturing stage in the maturing phases of an economy, directly jumping or maybe on the path of morphing from an a agriculture oriented economy to a service oriented one.


Indians somehow always have had emphasis on math and linguistics. (Most of us study atleast 2-4 languages during our schooling). So kind of semantics, syntax, grammer comprehension is inbuilt. combine that with logic at a later stage say around collegue and voila programming is kind of just another language. This is not something which is specific to indians though. I guess it must be the way the world over. The only reason why indians are getting noticed is maybe because of the numbers.

As far as offshoring is concerned, if we look at the percentage of business being offshored in the world, India is still a minnow accounting only for around 4-5%. The only consolation being it is growing at about 30% yearly.
Arjunkumar Shastry
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And when did the Indian IT boom start?

Possibly 1990 onwards.It was in nascent stage before that when computers were expensive worlwide.Around mid-80s govt. created some institutes to boost software exports.These institutes with combined efforts of Govt succeeded to quite extent to popularize the career in computer related things.After Govt opted liberalization policies many companies benifitted by doing offshore work.As Govt. too got foreign exchange,it further gave subsidies to this business by setting up IT parks,tax cuts etc.The business started growing almost double digit growth every year.Many companied started sending people overseas for doing the work.So plenty of jobs and descent money,people got attracted.


What were most indian people doing for work before the IT boom?

everything!!I believe still less than 2% of entire population is into IT business.Rest of people do everything what people in every country do:truck drivers,doctors,engineers,beggers,nurses,typist,chartard accounts,shop keepers.cab drivers and Govt officers.


Do you think most Indian people do IT work because it is most available...or do all these people from the same country really like the work THAT much?

Good question.Yes,as of now jobs are available hence people tend to go in this field.I think only less than 1% of IT population really like and they are into this because they like it.


i'm just wondering if it's because its part of the culture and they WANT to do it...or if it's because it's the best way to be gainfully employed in that country

Yes,last answer.Country has very less scintific/innovation culture.If you can see international journals(even if you take Maths journals),number of papers submitted from India is minimal or fractional.(India produces largest number of scientists/engineers(may be second to China)).


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Devesh H Rao
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Originally posted by Arjunkumar Shastry:

Yes,last answer.Country has very less scintific/innovation culture.If you can see international journals(even if you take Maths journals),number of papers submitted from India is minimal or fractional.(India produces largest number of scientists/engineers(may be second to China)).


You know arjun, if I may call you that, I guess its also the nature of the people which leads to the above situation. I may be wrong in generalizing on these terms but sometimes i think we tend to be a work oriented culture rather than a credit oriented culture. So many times we are happy with getting the work done rather than thinking how we got it done.. A recent example which comes to my mind is, In my company we have a solution and strategy group which looks at the various frameworks, sdlc's and processes and comes up with variations or customizations for them for our projects. I was talking to one of the guys regarding a takeoff on the zachman framework they had done, I asked him have you guys ever thought about IP and he goes like nahhhh.. we do not want to get into all that. In the time we get the IP stuff we can come up with more stuff.

The world talks about six sigma but we have had those processes in fields all along without bothering to go out and take IP on it (Have you ever noticed how the textile mills worked in olden times with manual labour. That is a best example of a repeatable process with minimal defects, The dabbawallas in mumbai). The yogas, medicine, all is copyright free....

Sometimes I think if only we were more a credit oriented society would it have been different
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