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Muni K Reddy
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Thank you very much I love this site.

I was just wondering if the best reply( not post) from a ranch-hand/new members for each month & for each subject(jsp,serlets,jdbc) be awarded with say "reply-of-the-month" logo(like the sheriffs have now ). We could make this logo valid for one month.

I think that will add a fun dimension to this site also I feel the tendency to help others will increase (esp by non-moderators).

Cheers
Muni
[ August 28, 2007: Message edited by: Muni K Reddy ]
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that sounds like an interesting idea, but i think it'd be hard to implement. how do you judge the 'best'? and who judges? I don't know anyone who reads every single response to every single thread. how can you determine if one is better than another?


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Muni K Reddy
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The award of "Star of the month" should be at the discretion of the moderator of the topic.
How to Judge:
  • It need not be the toughest question answered, but an answer which takes a bit of effort. For example, in one of my previous posts in some thread "Maneesh Godbole" showed some genuine interest in replying with examples and things I need to try.

  • http://www.coderanch.com/t/407981/java/java/abstract-class-InterfaceThe answer was such that it not only answered the question but made me learn something more!
  • something which is not a copy n paste or a hyperlink
  • like most sites, every member should be able rank a reply!! 1-5 and have that report accessible only by the web masters! Then among the top 10 something,it wont be difficult to choose the best in a month for each topic.


  • I know that many in Javaranch dont need that incentive but it just adds a fun bit to the site.
    [ August 28, 2007: Message edited by: Muni K Reddy ]
    marc weber
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    I like the idea of recognition. But...

    Personally, I avoid forums that award any sort of formal credit (points, stars, or whatever). I find that this encourages too many users to flood the forums with really lame stock responses in hopes of recognition. In fact, I have to wonder if these people -- who have often accumulated thousands, if not tens of thousands of posts -- are even reading the original post. For example, if someone is having difficulty compiling, a lame stock response might be "Reinstall Java." Rather tellingly, their minimal reply often includes very detailed instructions about how the original poster can award them forum points for their "helpful answer." So with enough volume, points for even a small percentage of their posts will gain them recognition.

    Another important consideration is that at JavaRanch, we try to help people learn by discovering their own solutions. So instead of just posting working code (that the original poster might not even understand), we try to suggest approaches or resources that will allow them to do the work themselves. But a formal recognition system would encourage users to post ready-to-go "solutions" instead of genuinely trying to help.

    (Also, if moderators are not included, and a moderator answers a question first, this could generate resentment among non-moderators who might feel that we should hold off on replying so that others have the chance to be recognized. On the other hand, if moderators are included, then there could be resentment about us having some sort of unfair advantage.)


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    Muni K Reddy
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    Hmm ya I agree!!
    marc weber
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    Originally posted by Muni K Reddy:
    ...
  • something which is not a copy n paste or a hyperlink...

  • I understand this might not demonstrate an investment of time and effort, but it's often the best (most helpful) reply. In these situations, I wouldn't want people trying to rephrase an authoritative reference in order to make it "their own."

    While I like the idea of recognition, I think a site like this works best when the motivation is simply to help.
    Muni K Reddy
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    Ya, I agree again! If fact, I had just seen one of our Moderators explanation being copy-pasted without giving any sort of reference in Sun Developer Network site!
    Henry Wong
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    I agree that this idea may not work, when all the details are applied -- However, I still think that it is a good idea. Maybe something less grand can be done....

    For example, a thread here to nominate a (non-moderator) candidate who was particularly helpful. It doesn't have to lead to a contributor of the month. Maybe recognition is good enough for now.

    Henry


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    Ilja Preuss
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    In my humble opinion, the most valuable recognition to give someone for being helpful is to say "thanks".


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    Qunfeng Wang
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    I do see a forum is ruined by something called virtual money. It looks prosperous at the begining. More pastes than before, more registers than before, but it becomes more difficult to find useful pastes.

    What's JavaRanch?
    It's a friendly place for java greenhorns, isn't it?


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    Arun Kumarr
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    Originally posted by Louis Wang:

    What's JavaRanch?
    It's a friendly place for java greenhorns, isn't it?


    - Ehh! How about you getting ya friend a beer.


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    Ben Souther
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    Originally posted by Ilja Preuss:
    In my humble opinion, the most valuable recognition to give someone for being helpful is to say "thanks".


    +1


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