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Combination of Java And Networking Job role

Bobby Sharma
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I am asking this question just for curiosity,nothing personal.

Is There any job role which demands both networking and Java knowledge?

(Here Networking refers to Only routing, switching and configuring
hardware and insalling network OP Systems (Cisco and Juniper)).

What's the role of networking Jobs in BPO?

I know BPO's requires Cisco/Nortell networking professionals,I want
know more about it.

one more reason of my asking such as question is If I ascend in Java field
,Will Any Employer want me to do Networking task?

Guys ,I really hate hardware jobs such as routing, switching ,
configuring and remembering clumsy networking commands.

I see many jobs which requires combination of system admistration/Java,
DataBase Admistration/Java and System Admistration/Security and these kind
of combinations I would like to do like a charm but not hardware work.

The last question but not least,is there any problem in my goal,You can see my goal in my signature,guide me if I am wrong anywhere.(this is personal)

please end up my curiosity.

best regards,
omi sharma


Back to Java , again.
Nicholas Jordan
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Full answer to your question fully answered in the book that arulk pillai originally posted in the other thread of discussion. Java is networking. See the O'Reilly title. If you can afford that much certification and get it done, then obtaining the O'Reilly title should be a routine task.

Getting a job doing this stuff is a little tricky in that all the certification and resume stuff does not do as much as what it's sellers claim. I had a friend, discussed in the earlier post I think, who held an MBA on a 40% scholarship to SMU, graduated Magna Cum Laude from the undergrad program at TAMU and generally did well in studies. I see an awful lot of insistence that formal education will get you work and no doubt there are millions of people attaining great achievment by exactly that avenue, but then as well the friend with the MBA was waiting tables right before our initial contact and was actually unemployed when we met.

I asked about that. I was told that it was discussed in MBA program and the situation was not as unusual as the man on the street would normally view the matter. When the MBA did go to work I was at first making more per week than the MBA - likely that will change in the long term but is highly instructive for a person in your position.

Go read arulk pillai's books. Accept that your position is normal.
Bobby Sharma
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But you did not explain combination of roles.
What I have understood is this:

Combination one: Application Developer - System Administration
Combination two: Application Developer - Database Administration
Combination three: Network Administration - System Administration
Combination four: Network Administration - Information Security

But the job role does not combine Application Developer/Network Administration,however the combination of c/c++ programmer and network
administration is required for writing protocols just the same way
c/c++ programmer and system administration combination is required
for both driver and network programming.

But it does really mean if you are c/c++ driver programmer or network
programmer then you are greater than a J2ee or .Net Developer by any means.
(Here I assume the developer must be excellent is performance)

That was What I understood after searching in Google and
Job sites.

Now,I am looking forward to read the book but you did not mention the name of the book,please provide me the name of the book where I can have
my answers.

best regards,
omi sharma

[ April 19, 2008: Message edited by: omi sharma ]
[ April 19, 2008: Message edited by: omi sharma ]
Nicholas Jordan
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It is only two posts away. If you think Google will deliver the world to your specifications, then you need to invest the work of finding arulk pillai's original post. That is how job search sites make their money. People think someone is going to call them at the house with what they have been told. If any of them ever call me I will have a seven hundred pound Kangaroo get rid of them for me.

You are doing well, based on the certifications you list. It is just that there are real world dynamics that will never be handled by soft skills in my code works. That is for others.

Perhaps I should pass you to people with soft skills.
Bobby Sharma
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Originally posted by Nicholas Jordan:

Perhaps I should pass you to people with soft skills.


Then,please do it.Yea, I want to improve my soft skills.
Nicholas Jordan
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That is just a terminology for people skills. I.O.W. ability to be pleasnt to others in any situation. That is not my area of expertise. I direct you to the other posters in this thread. My solution to the matter is to bury myself in code, that is common in techies, and leave that for others on the team. Doing "soft skills" effectively is a discipline that runs deep in the self and is more theatre than technology. It is easy to fail in cross-language understanding, most languages have what is called idiomatics. If I try to fulfill your request using my idiomatics without an accomplished translator, we will fail.

Soft skills just means people skills, good manners is another way to say it.

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There are two types of programming - coders and finesse.

Finesse is the people part, but the part underneath is what code is all about. The people part keeps the company from collapsing like an eggshell under load. Unfortunately, a lot of software development is concerned solely with the people part when some coding skills should be gained first.

That is soft-skills in action.
[ April 22, 2008: Message edited by: Nicholas Jordan ]
Bobby Sharma
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Uh-Huh,Now I understood by your explaining that What's soft skills for in
IT industry or say what's soft skills role in IT firms.

I have to improve my communication and interpersonal skills.
Nicholas Jordan
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Then this whole thread was worth it.
Bobby Sharma
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of course, Nickey, my dear friend, you did the job well.
Nicholas Jordan
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I see you have been reading some books on people skills.
Bobby Sharma
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