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I lost the biggest chance

Hussein Baghdadi
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Hi.
Last week I got interviewed by one of the biggest companies in the world (phone interview).
The interviewer asked me to solve a problem he gave to me.
I admit, my solution isn't top notch but I was so afraid due the company's big name.
According to them, they care about thinking, not the correct answer for every question.
Today, I got an email from them explaining to me that they don't have a position for my qualifications.
Yes, I admit, I was not in the top form but I wasn't that bad also.
I feel as I lost the biggest chance in my life...
Arjun Shastry
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You can try after few months.Or don't they interview people in their entire life once rejected?


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Az Sanders
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If you can should definitely give it another go infuture.

Dealing with "big" names:
Its easy to get intimidated almost heart-stoppingly so when faced with a big name company (dealt with some in other sectors outside of I.T).

The thing to remember is, they weren't always big, <Bill gates firm> started as a guy -just like you- in his garage, he had a talent and he used it.

every company no matter how big it gets or how fast it does so starts off as one or two guys (normally having only the slightest clue) just going for something, and its people -just like you- that made them "big".

Next time you face a giant remember that, they're made giants by having lots of people like you and without people like you they'll not grow.

Maybe just -maybe- this door closed because another is due to open, one you couldnt step through without having experienced what you have.

and on the plus side, to even -get- an interview with a big name says you have talent, in your next interview perhaps mention that X was interested in
you, such can impress the right employer.

//::Edited by Az to remove specific company name (not enough coffee yet!)
[ June 29, 2008: Message edited by: Az Sanders ]

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the same thing happened to me before now I have brief reactive psychosis in a severely dejected and catatonic state, also occassionally I feel like my life is over


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Arvind Mahendra
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John I think if you knew this was the biggest chance, then admitting you were not in top form is an indicator that you probably didn't deserve the position. Sometimes we don't grasp the severity and the importance of a particular situation until push comes to shove we don't even bother putting our blood sweat and tears to prepare for it. I know how we see an offer that we feel is perfect for us and anything that comes later is judged according to the offer you missed. This will be normal but its okay to lower some standards next time you interview just so you don't feel depressed, and sometimes the next opportunity could even end up better than the one you missed. The important thing is not to let this loss linger any longer than it deserves.


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Hussein Baghdadi
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Originally posted by Arvind Birla:
John I think if you knew this was the biggest chance, then admitting you were not in top form is an indicator that you probably didn't deserve the position. Sometimes we don't grasp the severity and the importance of a particular situation until push comes to shove we don't even bother putting our blood sweat and tears to prepare for it.

They gave me one week to study a lot of materials and I'm already I have a jammed job, I did my best through this short period...
Arvind Mahendra
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Originally posted by John Todd:

They gave me one week to study a lot of materials and I'm already I have a jammed job, I did my best through this short period...


Well, if you are convinced that you put in every ounce of effort that you could and could do no more, then what is there to be depressed about? You tried your utmost best and it didn't happen. The hard reality is that one should seek a company more in tune with one's caliber and ability.
Hussein Baghdadi
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Or maybe I didn't fail, maybe there are more qualified people than me (I only have one year and half of professional experience)...
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You can only fail if you don't bounce back. In the long run it doesn't matter what this big company thinks of you, only what you think of you.

Every successful inventor and business has many failures. Ask Bill Gates or Steve Jobs. I am a big fan of the history of science, and the more revolutionary the idea the less likely people are to see its value. 'Failure' is the norm, and a prerequisite for success.
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Originally posted by John Todd:
Or maybe I didn't fail, maybe there are more qualified people than me (I only have one year and half of professional experience)...
That's right. Don't assume you know why they didn't accept you. In particular don't assume it's because of one particular part of the interview. It could have been anything, including perhaps that they were interviewing 100 people for 1 position and you weren't #1 on their final list.
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Easy to say but difficult to follow,

"Learn from mistakes and ensure it does not get repeated".

Better luck next time!!


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maybe by 'missing' this one, it will leave you open for a better one. In my few years, i have learned that nothing is ever what it seems. the job I have now is nothing like what I thought it would be when i interviewed. maybe what you THOUGHT was your dream job would have turned into a nightmare. There's really no way to know, so don't fret about it.


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Do your best and don't worry about the result..May be god has destined something bigger for you


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Mohammed Yousuff
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When we are going for a company which is a dream company for me, then i will start tensed because i want to join that company... So in interview it make me to tense, then i start to forget what i learned....Some time to impress them i will answer the question by giving the Deep Explanations but they may expect the overview only...So this may cut your frequency with your interviewer (some guys may not understand what we explained).....

But when i go for other normal company or Company which i don't know that is best place to work ..... i will excel their and they finally send me the offer.

in Job Search i have attended more than 50 companies and in all the companies i have cleared (some of them are dropped by me) the only company which i FAILED is my DREAM COMPANY....

Yes i do have to say some time we are up to the level to go such Companies ....but continuous preparation will help us to move on ....


I have a 4 years plan to learn and fill my weak areas and to Join only the company which the Best Place to Work in the World.... (You can easily Guess this )

As per Javaranch policy, i think company names are NOT allowed but Guessing is Allowed


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Originally posted by John Todd:
Or maybe I didn't fail, maybe there are more qualified people than me (I only have one year and half of professional experience)...


John...You will get another chance in the future. Face it brave!


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Hussein Baghdadi
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I'm planning to resubmit my CV after 6 months (and every 6 months until I got the job), is it ok to do so? or I will destroy my stock in their HR department?
Also, during this 6 months, I don't expect to have any thing new in my CV except for the current projects I'm working on.
Why they will call me (in case they will) if my CV didn't have some thing new?
Any way, I started to study the materials they gave me again...
Onkar Joshi
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Originally posted by Mohammed Yousuff:
the only company which i FAILED is my DREAM COMPANY....


It is likely that your "DREAM COMPANY" would have changed 6 months down the line if you hadn't failed on that occasion.

It's just human nature. It's that, "The grass is greener...." thing.


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Originally posted by John Todd:
I'm planning to resubmit my CV after 6 months (and every 6 months until I got the job), is it ok to do so? or I will destroy my stock in their HR department?
Also, during this 6 months, I don't expect to have any thing new in my CV except for the current projects I'm working on.
Why they will call me (in case they will) if my CV didn't have some thing new?
Any way, I started to study the materials they gave me again...


There is no such thing as a dream company. What we want is good people around us, challenging work, good compensation and the other things that come with a nice work environment. It is our assumption that top notch companies provide all of this. You should seek an opportunity instead of a company. This is because loyalty with a company will not always benefit you mutually.

Never be sad that some one rejected you. In fact rejected is the wrong word to use. Requirements and skills do not match all the time. Companies sometimes have to reject good people because their profile does not fit the project requirement. Dont worry and keep learning and doing what you like


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Thamizh Velan
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Originally posted by John Meyers:

Never be sad that some one rejected you. In fact rejected is the wrong word to use. Requirements and skills do not match all the time. Companies sometimes have to reject good people because their profile does not fit the project requirement. Dont worry and keep learning and doing what you like


Well said John. Awesome!


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Rohit Mehta
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Hi John,

What do you feel - that its the only company on earth where one can be happy, have satisfaction, attain work/life balance! Are the thousands of people working in other good companies (might be a rank down or two on S&P list) not happy, or satisfy with themselves/their life!

I think you should take things in a bigger span. See others working in some other company - & see why some of them are very happy - even when they are not working in your dream company. Its because they have evolved. They know that there is nothing like perfect company/life/person/marriage etc.

Keep learning - Keep trying (remember - Stay Hungry - Stay foolish!). And don't always go by end result. Believe me, at times the journey is much soothing & pleasant than the destination.

As they say : Success is a Journey, not a destination!

Cheers!


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Sri Anand
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Well its a experience to lose, you lost the opportunity because you didnt meet their requirements and standards or may be because you were not having had kind of experience they were expecting.
I had experience of failing at job interviews initially, but i attended more and more just to learn from each experience also taking help necessary to correct myself.I never felt bad about it
Thamizh Velan
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Originally posted by Onkar Joshi:


It is likely that your "DREAM COMPANY" would have changed 6 months down the line if you hadn't failed on that occasion.

It's just human nature. It's that, "The grass is greener...." thing.


I am in my notice period with my once_dream_company.
 
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