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liqiang yang
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Hi ranchers,

I am really confused with my job situation in the future.

I started a contract job through a job agency. During the interview, the project manager from employer said that this job will be extended (means more than 6 months) and they would try to transfer it into a full-time position. I signed the contract with agency from Aug, 1st to Dec, 31st, 2008. The agency guy said they will sign another contract with me to continue this job.

My question is WHETHER I HAVE TO work for the employer through this agency.
Can I directly ask that project manager and let him know I prefer to get rid of the agency and work as a regular employee in their company. Of course I will advise the agency two weeks earlier if the project manager want to keep me 6 months later. Are there any troubles can happen to me?

What is the professional way to convert my current position(agency's contractor) into a regular employee of the company I am working for now.

I am very worry about this kind of things. Can anybody give me some advices or opinions? Please help me! Big big thanks.


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Mark Herschberg
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This is really a function of contract law and local custom. You'll need to provide your country and possibly state of yourself, the agency, and the employer, as well as the jurisdiction of the contract.

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Originally posted by liqiang yang:
Can I directly ask that project manager and let him know I prefer to get rid of the agency and work as a regular employee in their company. .

You can ask. You might want to phrase it as seeing if there is an option to work directly as opposed to "getting rid of" the agency.

Some companies have a contract where they have to pay the agency if they hire you. Which would make it up to the manager whether it makes sense for them.


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liqiang yang
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Thank you guys.

I live in Alberta, Canada.
I went through the details of contract and found agency just provided some normal operational services and I had to take all the risks during this job.
It's the easy money to make with no any risks for agency. I don't think it's fair. But I have to make money for living. That's why I really want to become a regular employee of the company to make my life easier.
Jimmy Clark
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During the interview, the project manager from employer said that this job will be extended (means more than 6 months) and they would try to transfer it into a full-time position.


Since the project manager indicated that they would try to transfer it into a full-time position, the way to follow up with this would be to carefully ask the project manager "how things are going with the decision to transfer the job to a full-time position?" Follow up again based upon his/her response.

By asking this question, you are indicating your interest in working for the organization. If you do "good" work, communicate well, and handle your responsibilities efficiently, the employer may make you an offer if they decide to add another full-time position to their ranks, or a position opens up. If you do "poor" work, there most likely will not be a chance of an offer. You are in control of your performance. Good luck!
liqiang yang
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Thanks James.

My main concern is how to become a regular employee of company with as less negative impact as possible on the relationship with the agency.
arulk pillai
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In my view the agnecy will be more keen on building a good rapport with your employer. So, work this through with your project manager.


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Jimmy Clark
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My main concern is how to become a regular employee of company with as less negative impact as possible on the relationship with the agency.


Right now you are an employee of the agency. The agency is providing consulting services to the client. If you want the client to hire you as a full-time employee, you should make sure there is no conflict with the current contract you have with your current employer. You need to re-read the employment/contract agreement that you signed with the agency. You need to look for clauses that speak about "petitioning" clients for employment.
liqiang yang
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Yes, I will search the word "petitioning client for employment" in the contract.
Thank a lot.
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My main concern is how to become a regular employee of company with as less negative impact as possible on the relationship with the agency

It's always hard to predict how these situations turn out. The client might just notify the agency that you approached them, and if the agency isn't happy about that for some reason, you'll have damaged your relationship with your employer. So tread carefully.


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liqiang yang
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It looks like I only have two option in this situation:

1. I have to work as a consultant for the agency continually.
OR
2. I look for another job.

I am wondering whether one finds a job through an agency, he/she has to work for it forever until the agency don't have job for him/her anymore. For example, if the job description says it's permanent job, and an agency help you to get this job, so you have to work as a agency worker in this position until you can find another job to leave. Thanks for your opinions.
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I went through the same challenges in the early part of my career. As long as you are paid the market rate it is the employer who should be concerned about paying extra. Gradually build up your network so that you can cut out the middleman in the future.
 
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