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Gregg Bolinger
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I am looking for a book the teaches/discusses good UI design using MVC and specifically uses SWING as the example API throughout the book. I looked around the Bunkhouse and didn't really see anything. So if anyone has any good suggested meeting the above requirements, that would be great.
Thanks.


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Dave Vick
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Gregg:
In the department of not helping, I looked too and didn't see anything either. If you do find something (here or somewhere else ) could you let me know. Right now I spend half of my time looking through various online tutorials and the API whenever I want to do something even mildly custom.
Thanks
Dave
PS You asked me what my app was (in the other thread), what is yours? If you can say? From your one post in XML it looks to have something to do with gaming...


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Gregg Bolinger
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PS You asked me what my app was (in the other thread), what is yours? If you can say? From your one post in XML it looks to have something to do with gaming...
Sure. It's nothing too special, but I am trying to take a different approach to it to make it somewhat unique.
I am making a really advanced and extensive Fantacy Football System. I know, I know, why not a web app. Well, I'm trying really hard to promote Swing Desktop Apps these days and I thought this would be fun. Not to mention that I get to build some really nice Network Services so my app can talk to the game servers. There is actually 2 components to this.
1. The client app
2. The server app
And you don't have to tell me how the whole 2-tier architecture is on its way out. I still think it has some life and just needs people like me to keep it going.
Anyway, a few details about the app...You will of course have a league manager. The only time all the players will need to actually connect with the LM will be during the draft at which point a simple round robin occurs. Everything after that, for the most part, you are on your own. But you will still need to connect to the game server to update your profile, points, player status, choose your roster for the week, etc. I found some online sites that offer XML files of player and team stats that I am looking into. I really don't want to try and track all that myself.
Anyway, it should be fun to make. And that is what I am working on.
I definatly keep you posted if I happen to find a good book.
[ November 18, 2003: Message edited by: Gregg Bolinger ]
Dave Vick
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Cool, sounds like a nice app. Also sounds like we might be in a position to pick each others brains at some point, or sit around and look at each other and hope someone else comes around to help us out
Never played fantasy football, let me know if/when you need a beta tester. I'll try my darndest to break it
Gregg Bolinger
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Thanks Dave. I'll let you know. Same goes for me when you need your app tested.
Jose Botella
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Hi I cannot help commenting that I am also developing a program using swing.
The purpose is to speak through the internet, and maybe a presence tester, and shared white board in the future. I have been able to connect three computers on a LAN, and two in the Internet. Tomorrow I will test three computers on the Internet.
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Applying UML and Patterns describes many patterns in the process of writting an application that has a GUI. It is an impressive book, but not of course devoted to MVC.


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Steven Broadbent
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What about Vorobievs book published by Manning or Marc Loy's in the oreilly series?


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Jose Botella
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Yes I like Robinson and Vorobiev's book a lot. It discusses good GUI design guidelines using the Swing API. MVC is also discussed in the book, however MVC is not dealt with regarding the design of a program.
You can try it before buying here
Vikalp Setya
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Joined: May 10, 2003
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Hi,
Why don't you try
Graphic Java Volume II by David Geary (Sun Microsystems press). It is simply superb.


Regards,<br />vikalps
 
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