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Sri Nivas
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Does anybody know the meaning of "Nanhesru Ningyake"?
I know the meaning and I think it is against the naming convention. The meaning is (Nanhesru, correct me if I am wrong)
"Why do you want my name?".
[The language is Kannada, spoken in the state of Karnataka in India.]
Nanhesru, why don't you use your real name? I liked some of your posts and would like to see ur real name.
hemanth kumar
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Well Srini
Why dont u say Ninhesaru Nangyake (Why do i require ur name )
Angela Poynton
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Can anyone else verify this translation?


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Eager Beaver
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Hey Srini/Hemanth,
Count me in too. I have my roots in the Northern part of the same state.
cheerio,
-EB
Eager Beaver
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Angela,
Trust me when I say that it means 'Why do u want my name'. Nothing objectionable about it.
-EB
hemanth kumar
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Hi Angela
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i hereby swear that whatever i say or write is nothing but the truth
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There's nothing wrong in the meaning of Nanhesaru Ningyake.And the above stated meanings are exactly what they are
u can ask the concerned (Nanhesru) person with that name himself
Upon my honor

Angela Poynton
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OK I was just making sure!
Jim Yingst
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I believe NN has translated this in the past as "He who wreaks havoc upon squealers.". Note that I've never seen him post outside Meaningless Drivel with this name.


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Sri Nivas
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Jim, that is not the correct meaning of 'Nanhesru Ningyake'. It has only one meaning in Kannada, meaning 'Why do u want my name?'.
There is nothing wrong in asking that question, but in Javaranch I found the naming convention is followed strictly ... so I just pointed out. So if 'Nanhesru' did not use this name in other forums...then what is his/her other name? Just curious...
Anonymous
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Naming conventions are not required on meaningless drivel.. So you dont need to know his other username on the ranch
Anonymous
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see how I can spoof anyone's name on this board ??? (this trick wont work on the other board tho'
Joseph Russell
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Wow. Had me fooled for a second...
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I'm sure i did !!
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Angela. I mean Angela. Be carefull - you have a powerful enemy in this forum. You are warned now.


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The previous sentence has two meanings. Both are the opposite.
Jim Yingst
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Srini- yes, I know. If you followed the link I gave, it went to an earlier conversation along these same lines. "He who wreaks havoc upon squealers" was a joke made by Nanhesru, which I found amusing.
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Joseph- note that we can disable the "feature" you've discovered if it's abused. But that would mean that everyone would have to register to post here in Meaningless Drivel, same as elsewhere. The intent behind allowing unregistered posts here is to allow people to more easily post anonymously in an area where we really don't care who you are. But if you impersonate real people, we may need to close off that option.
hemanth kumar
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Yup i am the unfortunate recepient of that joke

Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
Srini- yes, I know. If you followed the link I gave, it went to an earlier conversation along these same lines. "He who wreaks havoc upon squealers" was a joke made by Nanhesru, which I found amusing.

Nanhesru Ningyake
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Srini, thanks for all the free publicity. Everyone reading this thread can now claim they know atleast two words in the Kannada language. And thanks to you, the language itself has become better known around the world
You are right. The name doesn't conform to the expected naming convention. But then, this is Meaningless Drivel, and as long as no one's offended, I can get away with it.
Why don't I use my real name? The reason's simple. I just don't want people who know me, visiting this site, and realizing that I am kinda wacky. Like for instance, I wouldn't want my mom reading all that stuff about my girlfriends (thankfully she's not interested in Java).
>I have my roots in the Northern part of the same state.
Really? I like the girls from that part. They are usually spunky, sincere, sweet, and sassy. And they cook very well
PS. I do have my real name registered on the ranch. And I use it occasionally. Since, however, you are so much surprised at this name, I am creating a new "real" user name, which I can use anywhere. I will post from there next

Pourquoi voulez-vous mon nom?
Nanjangud Nanjundaiah
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Here I am. How do you like this name?

The Rancher Formerly Known As Nanhesru Ningyake.
Johnson Chongson
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There are wheels within wheels
Joseph Russell
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Joseph- note that we can disable the "feature" you've discovered if it's abused. But that would mean that everyone would have to register to post here in Meaningless Drivel, same as elsewhere. The intent behind allowing unregistered posts here is to allow people to more easily post anonymously in an area where we really don't care who you are. But if you impersonate real people, we may need to close off that option.

It's not me impersonating people.
Nanjangud Nanjundaiah
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Angela, looks like you've given yourself more work - to watch out for impersonators

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The Rancher Formerly Known As Nanhesru Ningyake.
Sri Nivas
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ok guys... i posted this because i did not know that u can post unregistered in meaningless drivel. still i think that the naming policy is good in javaranch and wish all people will follow that.
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Originally posted by Nanjangud Nanjundaiah:
Mr NN, I think u would have utilised this limelight u got in this topic post in a better way. U could have made a better attempt to make other posters in this topic learn kannada. Anyway try it atleast now.
Regards
Shyam
(email: shyam004@chitraloka.net)
[This message has been edited by Ajith Kallambella (edited September 10, 2001).]
Ajith Kallambella
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Please use English only in your posts. This rule applies even in the meaningless drivel. I have removed non-English words from Shyam's post.
Thanks!


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Manku Thimma
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Originally posted by Shyam:
U could have made a better attempt to make other posters in this topic learn kannada. Anyway try it atleast now.

Where do you think we should start? With the alphabet? Or perhaps teach them all the major swear words?

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Nanhesru Ningyake
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Regarding names: The rule here is, if your name is obviously fictitious, some conscientious rancher will soon put you in the limelight. Such names can only be used in MD - like this post. If I wish to discuss real Java, I use my other names
Regarding usage of non-English (and non-name) words in the post: Strongly discouraged. You might be let go if the foreign word is often used in an English context, like "coup d'�tat".
And if you are lucky, you might also avoid the censors by providing a faithful translation of what the heck you just said in that strange language. For example, see the second post by Nanjangud Nanjundaiah in this thread.

[This message has been edited by Nanhesru Ningyake (edited September 10, 2001).]
Anonymous
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Dear Manku thimma and others...
We can teach most common words we use everyday.. like .. "Had your lunch?", "What is your name?.", "Where are you from?" etc., Just five or sentences in the beginning will do? Besed on their response we can continue for more?. But I didnt understand one concept of the Editor.. Why cant kannada language be used?.
Manku Thimma
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Dear Kannadiga, I admire your noble intention, but I wonder what would be the motivation for Javaranchers to learn Kannada? Why do you think we should teach them a (Kannada) lesson?
Ofcourse, there are always curious minds, so here are a few good resources:
This site teaches the Kannada alphabet - there's audio, so you can actually hear how the letter sounds. The audio file on the main page reads out the entire alphabet. Click on each letter to go to a description page, where you can hear the letter, and sample words using the letter. Here's the site: Kannada Kali (if the audio file doesn't play on Windows Media Player, use Real Audio).
And this one takes you further, with sample sentences: Learn Kannada.
And here's another link explaining the Kannada alphabet's origin and features: Kannada Alphabet.
That's a good start, don't you think, Mr/Ms Kannadiga?
>Why cant kannada language be used?
See previous post by Nanhesru Ningyake. To put in simple words, the objective in enforcing an English-only rule is to ensure everyone understands what you are saying. Don't you agree?

[This message has been edited by Manku Thimma (edited September 20, 2001).]
Manku Thimma
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>Or perhaps teach them all the major swear words?
I guess this won't be necessary unless the rancher decides to visit Karnataka, and start a fight in a local bus stand
Thomas Paul
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I'll admit that I'm not as smart as I pretend to be. What part of the world speaks Kannada? The first time I saw it I thought someone misspelled our northern neighbor.
By the way, the alphabet is beautiful. It looks like artwork.
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Jim Yingst
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"Kannada or Canarese, the official language of the southern Indian state of Karnataka. Kannada, a Dravidian language, is spoken by about 27 million people."
Quoted from right above the artwork.
Manku Thimma
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Jim's right. Kannadigas (people who speak Kannada) are from Karnataka - the state capital of which is Bangalore.
>By the way, the alphabet is beautiful. It looks like artwork
Thanks! Most of my Western friends are quite surprised at all the swirls and curves
Jim Yingst
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Agreed. While I seriously doubt I will actually learn any of the language itself (nothing personal, just time limitations), I just bookmarked the omniglot site as it has a bunch of other cool stuff as well - thanks, Manku. For a sampling of other cool alphabets in the same family, chech out the link to the Brami alphabet. I think I like the Devanagari and Gurmukhi best - the lines along the top give a nice unified feel to the alphabet, and the overall effect reminds me of a trellis with vines growing along it, with parts dangling off below to form letters.

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soumya ravindranath
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stuff as well - thanks, Manku.


Manku Thimma
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Soumya, you were waiting for this, weren't you?
Jim, I agree, the Devanagari script has a kind of unity and flow to it... it does look beautiful. One good thing about all Indian languages is, reading the individual letters reads the whole word. What's the name for this type of language, "phonetic"? Such simplicity eliminates the need for a pronounciation guide industry
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Hi! My Real name is Shyam. I dont have any intention to enforce kannada. What I meant was with the need for rejuvination of kannada language growing day by day, when somebody shows interest to learn kannada (as in this forum) we kannadigas must feel pleasured to do the needful.
Anyway thanx for the links you have provide for these enthusiasts. Good effort.

Regards
Kaz Vorpal
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This is odd...I've seen two different references to devanagari as being derived from Brahmi script. But one refers to Brahmi as being used in the third century BC, the other in the sixth century BC...both of them long after Sanskrit was being written in, I believe, Devanagari.
In my memory, from back when I was studying Sanskrit, that language and its script were developed in the eight centuries after the aryan conquest of what would become India (who knows what the people of Harappa and Mohenjo-Dharo actually called it back then), which was about 1500BC. This would place it well before Brahma script.
Anyone able to explain this apparent disparity?


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Anonymous
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I thought it was some sort of Japanese name.
I too know kannada.
 
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