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Hi Marty, Several times I was reading that JSF doesn't compete with Struts. However, if you read some articles about it, you can discover that most of its functionality comes from Struts. OK, OK, you can render visual components in different ways, but as you said, how many people will use that feature? And at the cost of what? Also, Web designers usually use professional visual tools like DreamWeaver MX to build its pages, so, IMHO, the custom html tags (forms, etc) created in both, Struts and JSF, are not very practical, not until web designers have a similar tool that lets them construct the pages visually, like the intent of project Rave, but this will take some time. My impression, and I should emphasize that I was not reading a lot about JSF, so I might be unfair, is that JSF project is not going well, maybe because it has not a clear main objective. So the questions are: Should we use JSF? What for? Is it going to take off? What are your personal opinions about it? (Please, tell me I am wrong! :-)) Dani Mazzuca
Also, Web designers usually use professional visual tools like DreamWeaver MX to build its pages,
Such designers are usually building web sites as opposed to web applications. So if custom tags (Struts or home-grown) aren't important to you, you don't need to use them. If you are building a large web app that would be near impossible without them, use a tool appropriate to the job. bear
My impression, and I should emphasize that I was not reading a lot about JSF, so I might be unfair, is that JSF project is not going well, maybe because it has not a clear main objective. So the questions are: Should we use JSF? What for? Is it going to take off? What are your personal opinions about it? (Please, tell me I am wrong! :-)) Dani Mazzuca
Dani, I heard that Swing developers can easily fetch the concept of JSF... I don't whether it is just a rumor or not... As for me, I haven't tried it JSF yet... I think I am glad of the evolution of JSF, since I have ever used Swing, when I was in the university... Even more, personally I liked Swing at that time... I hope my skill on Swing can resurrect, if JSF is some kinda Swing-liked components... Just my opinin...
As to whether the JSF project is going well or not, IMHO it is too early to tell. Cheers- - Marty
Do u mean JSF is not widely used in the industry yet? Since I used to be Swing-based client-server applications in the past, I am pretty excited of hearing that JSF technology is kinda Swing... Hope JSF project is going well in the future...
It is my understanding that JSF is far from complete. So no, it is not widely used yet. If you really want to see the benefit of JSF, do some projects in ASP.NET with Visual Studio.NET. I think that is basically what they are trying to achieve with JSF.
Kyle, It is interesting to know that big companies are behind the JSF scenes, particularly, Macromedia. Could you elaborate more, with technical comments about JSF, why do you think it will be the next big thing? Dani Mazzuca
Joined: Aug 10, 2001
OK, the next release of WSAD will include full support for JSF. We have this available as a limited-availability technical preview now for selected customers. I know that Macromedia is working on JSF support for a Flash renderkit. There are lots of other companies doing similar interesting work. It's from this that I'm drawing my conclusions that it is the next big thing. Kyle