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I am new here, this will probably be my only post, but it seems that Jim Yingst is very mean to certian select people here. Why is he such a dick to some people, yet so nice to others...
Thomas Paul
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Who do you think he is mean to? Ooops... that was your only post so I guess I'll never know.


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Maybe he's just moody.
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Jim is never mean! Blunt maybe - but never mean. His less sugar coated comments are for your own good - sort of on the order of "you will be better off taking this medicine even if it has a bad taste".


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Fred Abbot
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maybe if more people were mean - more people would ask real questions - instaed of posting then if they dont get the complete code you dont here from them again - the point of forums is to learn things from others not for others to do you work for you
Thomas Paul
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I have to admit that I can be mean too, sometimes. For example, the post that asks for the complete code to a working chat server. And it's Sunday night and it's urgent because he needs it by Monday morning. Ohhhh... and it has to use at least 2 interfaces and 2 abstract classes. "Why don't you friggin' do your own homework!"
Sahir Shibley
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Jim is known around here as Jim "affable" Yingst.

http://www.javaranch.com/ubb/Forum32/HTML/000772.html

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but it seems that Jim Yingst is very mean to certian select people here.
The only person he is mean to is me. <long deep sobbings>


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I have to admit that I can be mean too, sometimes
Yes, Thomas is even worse. Read the thread Sahir pointed you to.
Sahir Shibley
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Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
but it seems that Jim Yingst is very mean to certian select people here.
The only person he is mean to is me. <long deep sobbings>

A man without a weakness is not complete. You are probably his only weakness
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It all depends on the correctness of Map's assertion that Jim is "jake the snake".
IMNSHO, jake the snake is a total jerk. He (She?) makes Howard Stern look polite.
On the other hand, I have never seen Jim Yingst ans Jim Yingst post anything I would consider offensive. (Counterexamples?)
The only bartender I've seen posting anything I would consider edgy is Thomas Paul. He never tries to offend, but his comments can be as sharp as those of Mark Twain's. I enjoy his remarks and haven't found them offensive either.
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You are probably his only weakness

Did not you know, that his heart is given to his pet snake entirely and forever? I hate snakes... Especially this one...
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It all depends on the correctness of Map's assertion that Jim is "jake the snake".
Protest. It was not assertion, it was a damn cool joke. I only said it because I was sure nobody would ever believe that "Jake the Snake" and Jim is the same person.
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All I can say is...
Don't mess with the Sheriff.
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If Jim is mean, then I want to be mean also.
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Originally posted by Paul Ralph:
It all depends on the correctness of Map's assertion that Jim is "jake the snake".
IMNSHO, jake the snake is a total jerk. He (She?) makes Howard Stern look polite.

Paul, First of all, I am not Jim and vice versa.
"Jake is a total jerk". What makes you think that? I love being a jerk only and only to individuals who are jerks, individuals with no ethics and so on... If you ever get a chance to meet me, you will undrstand that I am one of the nicest people you ever came accross. I have been using this name because it is kind of funny and I want to post anonymously in this forum. I do have a valid name that I am using in other forums.
Howard Stern???
I can't stand that pervert.
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To speak seriously, Jim is a very sentimental and sensitive guy. He moved from his loved Arizona to expensive and boring California only because his snake had depression and doctors said it's all climate...
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Ok, that was not very serious...
On the other hand, I have never seen Jim Yingst ans Jim Yingst post anything I would consider offensive.
First of all, I am not Jim and vice versa.

I am almost sure Jim never used any false identity except for software testing purpose, which posts he normally deletes.

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Ronnie Johnson
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Jim can be mean, but the only time I saw this was in my stupid "Conrad is strange" thread, and I guess I deserved it then
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The mean shall inherit the earth,
For all life is meaningless at birth.
When you find the ranchers' mean girth,
You'll find of mean bellies there's no dearth.
Life is a meandering river full of mirth,
Where you have the means to prove your worth.
Angela always meant to date Colin Firth,
But meanwhile he had let Livia share his berth.


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Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by Paul Ralph:
The only bartender I've seen posting anything I would consider edgy is Thomas Paul. He never tries to offend, but his comments can be as sharp as those of Mark Twain's. I enjoy his remarks and haven't found them offensive either.
Edgy? Must be why I can't find anything other than bluny knives in the Bunkhouse. Map, what did you do with my Bowie Knife?
Mark Twain. I am as happy as a clam at high tide! Thanks!
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Map, just some lingering suspicion... is Jon Bell really you?
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Map, just some lingering suspicion... is Jon Bell really you?
You will laugh, but when I saw "Jim..." title I had exactly the same suspicion: is it me? (explanations will be given 1.5 hours later)
No, it's not me.
But I am amused how "Jim" topic brought you and Thomas in such a poetical mood...
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Aakanksha
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I wonder why Jim is so quite....afterall the topic of discussion is him...Jim wanna say something?
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Promised explanations.
When I saw "Jim..." topic in MD today, I had a feeling that I somehow moved in tomorrow, because tomorrow (which is actually today) I wanted to post a topic with about the same title... Then I read your responses and thought: this "Jon Bell" guy found a damn good way to make us tell Jim how we love him... "Jon", was this your intention? Anyway, it was a brilliant idea... What a pity, it wasn't mine!
Happy Birthday, Jim!
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The only person he is mean to is me. <long deep sobbings>

What do we call this..
1. vilification
2. attempt at eye catching
3. staving off competition
The grapevine has it that Map seems to be making a public stmt about something, more often, these days...

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Why thank you, Mapraputa. Certainly an interesting way to receive birthday wishes. I note that from the posting times, you are exactly 1 second late from your previous promise of an explanation in 1.5 hours. Because I am in a generous mood, I will let it pass - this time.
Why have I been so quiet? Errr... I was busy, mostly. Enough was going on at work I couldn't spend too much time on any one post, and so I kept delaying by response to this thread. And also it was interesting to see what others were saying without my input. But, I couldn't stay away forever, so here I am.
So, I am curious what inspired the original post in this thread. Not that I disagree with it necessarily - I'm just not sure exactly what we're talking about. My first thought was that this was in relation to my recent prank here, as certainly Ziqiang Wu did nothing to deserve having the thread cut off so immediately. In fact I always intended to reopen the thread after a short while - I just couldn't resist the urge to abuse my power a little in this case. I hope Ziqiang didn't take it personally - it was intended only as a quick joke, and not as an attack on him. (Or her? I have no idea.)
Anyway, I did a little research (abusing those Sheriff powers yet again) and I see that Jon Bell seems to be posting from the same school that Conrad does. So I'm guessing this is mostly about my treatment of Conrad, Ronnie, and assorted anonymous posters from that site (ahem). Let's just say that there have been a number of... questionable... posts from that site, from unregistered names. Initially it seemed most likely that these were avatars of Conrad, or of Ronnie. Some I'm sure were - but others I'm not so sure anymore. I have a low tolerance for anonymous posts if they're used to make derogatory comments of any type - and Conrad and Ronnie took some flak from me and others based partly on the assumption that they were responsible for these. To the extent that this is untrue, I apologize. Though I've also seen you both use a fair amount of unnecessary profanity in your posts, and it gets irritating to have to go and delete these from an otherwise civil conversation. This does seem to have decreased somewhat, and I hope this trend will continue, as I have also seen helpful and intelligent posts on occasion from both of you.
As for other stuff - yeah, sometimes I'm probably just in a surly mood. And other times I'm just in a hurry, and my posts may come out more blunt than was intended. And yet other times I am actually trying to make a joke, but it may not be interpreted as a joke by everyone here. Though often the target of the joke - Mapraputa for example - knows perfectly well it's a joke. Whether she shares this info with others is another matter, of course. Part of the fun is seeing what she will do for revenge.


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Hey JIM, where did you get the word 'avatars' from. It has an indian/sanskrit origin and I wasn't aware about its usage outside India.
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Avatar is one of the few Sanskrit/Hindi words which people use all over the world and some of them dont even know that its not English. Guru is another, as in Java Guru.
Any other which come to mind ??
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avatar n. Syn.

[in Hindu mythology, the incarnation of a god] 1. Among people working on virtual reality and cyberspace interfaces, an avatar is an icon or representation of a user in a shared virtual reality. The term is sometimes used on MUDs. 2. [CMU, Tektronix] root, superuser. There are quite a few Unix machines on which the name of the superuser account is `avatar' rather than `root'. This quirk was originated by a CMU hacker who found the terms `root' and `superuser' unimaginative, and thought `avatar' might better impress people with the responsibility they were accepting.


Tintin, I think people are generally aware of the indian origins of the word 'guru' (spiritual 'teacher' or 'guide' ?).

guru n.

[Unix] An expert. Implies not only wizard skill but also a history of being a knowledge resource for others. Less often, used (with a qualifier) for other experts on other systems, as in `VMS guru'. See source of all good bits.


There are loads of words that have been appropriated or just plain made up by the computing community. Check out the Jargon file (which is where I borrowed these definitions from) if you're interested.
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Ronnie Johnson
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Cool Jim it is my birthday today as well. Let me also assure you that Jon is no avatar of mine...
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Sahir Shibley
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Happy Birthday Jim. This would be a good occasion to tell us if you like Map or the snake better
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Happy Birthday Jim
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Happy birthday Jim! Have a wonderful day!!!


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Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday dear Jim....
OK, why am I singing alone?

Dave


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Happy Birthday, Jim! Here are some dancing girls to celebrate your birthday

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Though often the target of the joke - Mapraputa for example - knows perfectly
well it's a joke. Whether she shares this info with others is another matter,
of course.

Guilty. I often assume that if I know something, so do others, which is not
always the case
Ok. To Whom It May Concern.
From now on: if you see a post where Jim is mean to Map, it is (most likely )
a joke! And if she fights back, it's even more likely that Jim was kidding.
As a general comment: both Jim and Thomas have very sharp mind. It can hurt,
if used unrestrainedly. I think they realize it and control their output -
most of the time. However, when they lack time (as Jim said) or are too emotional
(reading "the post that asks for the complete code to a working chat server" ) -
then they can accidentally express themselves in natural manner - i.e. tell all
the truth. I would not call it "being mean". I would... ah, Cindy already
said everything.
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Manku Thimma
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Intrinsically, there's nothing wrong with being mean if that's a spontaneous response. That's when the meanee deserved to be meaned upon by the meaner.

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Originally posted by Tom:
Map, what did you do with my Bowie Knife?

I borrowed it for the time of book giveaway in XML forum. One more question like
"How can java and xml combined? whether the procedure is same as connecting java and HTML?" and...
Also it can improve dead case statistics in Java Intermediate. According to the July's report, sheriffs found six dead bodies in JI - all with knife wounds. Compare it to XML forum statistics - only two dead guys, and no knives were used, all gun shots. Probably killed each other during comparative analysis of DOM and SAX parsers.
Originally posted by Sahir Shibley:
A man without a weakness is not complete.

"Man is incomplete until he is married. Then he is finished."
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Originally posted by Manku Thimma:
Intrinsically, there's nothing wrong with being mean if that's a spontaneous response. That's when the meanee deserved to be meaned upon by the meaner.




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