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Choosing the Country of your Birth

Sarmad Sindhi
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Country of birth was not your choice.
If you would have given a choice would you have liked to be born in the same country?
Andy Ceponis
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I wouldnt really care where i was born, as it has no effect on me today.
Greg Harris
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I'm proud to be an American
where at least I know I'm free,
And I won't forget the men who died
who gave that right to me,
And I gladly stand up next to you
and defend her still today,
'Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land
God Bless the U.S.A.

Lee Greenwood - God Bless the USA


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Angela Poynton
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I'm not sure if I would have prefered to have been born in a different country but I have always felt I belonged in America. On my two visits there I have felt a kind of "Inner peace" and it's been a very difficult thing to come back over the ocean.
I do think that I will spend a significant part of my life there, just not yet!

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Cindy Glass
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There is no place like America. Everyplace else is just a nice place to visit.
But then I am an American by birth, so I would assume that I am biased.
God bless America.


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George Brown
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attempting to provide perspective to the US-3 Abstentions-1 pattern, I must admit that I'm entirely content to have been born in England, and since I don't have any experience of having grown up in any other country my choice remains England.
As they say 'Better the devil you know...'
Peter Lyons
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I wouldn't want to be anywhere but here in the USA.
When I was a kid my family almost moved to Oslo, Norway... at the time I thought that would be great. Today I'm really glad we didn't.
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USA... but England would be my second choice.


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Anonymous
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I would list the possibilities like this:
USA
Canada
any western European country
Cayman Islands
Bahamas
Tahiti
Bartholemu Smith
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Canada for sure...
John Bateman
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Born in Canada.. wouldn't change a thing, but I would change the city..
I've always loved Halifax, Nova Scotia.. Ahh the water....

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Nathan Pruett
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Country?

I'm not sure I was even born on the right planet...

Born in the USA, and it's not too bad...

Though I wouldn't mind Canada, Australia, England, Japan, or most Western European countries...

Unfortunately, I'm not going to express the great deal of patriotism the other Americans on here have voiced... I think that every country has problems of some sort and America certainly has it's share of problems... Kinda like most recent elections, I see this as the choice of the lesser evil rather than the greater good...

-Nate


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Cindy Glass
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Originally posted by Nathan Pruett:

Unfortunately, I'm not going to express the great deal of patriotism the other Americans on here have voiced... I think that every country has problems of some sort and America certainly has it's share of problems... Kinda like most recent elections, I see this as the choice of the lesser evil rather than the greater good...

-Nate

Ahhhh, but you are looking at the actual implementation, and not focusing on the underlying premises which promise so much potential.
It is not that we are doing it all the best way in the USA. It is that we have the opportunity and ability to re-work it to the best way, as soon as we get our act together.
In the meanwhile, no one else seems to have gotten all the kinks worked out either, so there is yet hope for us.
Ashok Mash
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If you think money, lifestyle, infrastucture etc are the only points to be noted for good life, may be to be born in a small city just outside NY or London would have been great !!
I think I wouldn't consider about another birth place than where I was born - in a peaceful strip of land, in a developing(?) county - third world. Its not nostalgia that makes me write this, though today I am living almost half way across the world. I guess its that pride & confidence that I feel when I walk around there, make me write this.. as my gentle American friends write, Freedom.. I never felt insecure about anything there.. And to add, I found my life out there bit more vivid - colorful - slow but exiting - poor but rich !!
Just think about this - if I travel 30 miles from my hometown, people have different food habits and almost totally different social customs, slangs and other priorities. And almost every 50miles later, things are different... Still everyone is welcomed every where, and not compelled to do something you dont think is right.. hm.. Yeah, as in the earlier posts, there is a good - really big share of problems in my part of world also.. but its not THAT bad... But just that variety of things.. amusement of meeting and discussing new new customs and life-styles in almost every other day... Hmm.. at times I really feel that its better than out-of-bed-breakfast-shower-travel-work-travel-shower-pub-bed(**)-sleep-out-of-bed-day-after-day lifestyle !! Even though weekends are carefully planned and eveyr hour is dived between surfing/scuba-diving or tennis/work-out..., isn't that sweet if you can wake up a morning, plan absolutely nothing and have a wonderful day, full of laughter and joy, day after day.. every day ?? Thats almost how we live there.
Where else in the world you travel 100-150 miles in bus or train with 150 or so people to attend somebodys marriage (arranged of couse) - & all 150 are really (well..more or less) good hearted relatives of each other - 'blood-relations' - and friends !!
Thats different !!
:-)
PS : As u might have correctly guessed, I am from India, and luckily from the peaceful state of Kerala at the southern tip of Indian peninsula.

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Cindy Glass
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Originally posted by J Ash:

Where else in the world you travel 100-150 miles in bus or train with 150 or so people to attend somebodys marriage (arranged of couse) - & all 150 are really (well..more or less) good hearted relatives of each other - 'blood-relations' - and friends !!
Thats different !!
:-)

Well, I don't know about anyone else, but I am planning on doing that in October. We will travel 400 miles to attend a wedding (not arranged of course) and I expect at least 150-200 of the folks attending will be related to me in some manner.
We do something similar 2 or 3 times a year. Thats how we keep up with family.

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"Country of birth was not your choice..."
But the general circumstances were.


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Peter Lyons
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Originally stated by Cindy Glass:
Ahhhh, but you are looking at the actual implementation, and not focusing on the underlying premises which promise so much potential.
It is not that we are doing it all the best way in the USA. It is that we have the opportunity and ability to re-work it to the best way, as soon as we get our act together.

That's well put... I think it's a very important point. Some of the things this country stands for make me sick (and some other things are just about right); but the foundation is good, and at least there is a system in place which gives individuals the opportunity to influence a change.
omar khan
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1) Java, as there they speak Java(-nese) natively (without any additional package)
2) Jakarta, as it runs quite smoothly
3) Alexandria, as they are good in management
4) Avalon
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Shama Khan
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If I could choose the country of my birth, I would pick a quite village in Bhutan, Nepal or some other country far removed from modern civilization where life is simple.
I keep thinking that eventhough we are living longer, have many technologies to make our lives easier, we know more and we learn more but somehow we are missing something that the people in the olden days had. I don't know if it's peace of mind, peace within self, whatever....
Maybe it's just that human nature thing which says 'Old is Gold' or 'The Good Old Days...'

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Ling Wu
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Originally posted by Angela Poynton:
I'm not sure if I would have prefered to have been born in a different country but I have always felt I belonged in America. On my two visits there I have felt a kind of "Inner peace" and it's been a very difficult thing to come back over the ocean.
I do think that I will spend a significant part of my life there, just not yet!

This is almost exactly how I have always felt, except I AM very sure that I wouldn't have preferred to have been born in a different country. I'm glad I was born in China (anywhere else wouldn't be authentic)and was given the chance to learn my cultural heritage, which I've come to appreciate more and more as I grow older. I wouldn't want to be of any other ethnic background and I don't wish to be born a Japanese or Korean, either. But for a good part of my life, I always felt a very strong pull from America. When I saw this country for the very first time in 1984, it was like deja vu. No cultural shock whatsoever. So I am a Chinese-born American through and through. And I love it. Wouldn't change a thing.
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Russian emigrants use to say: "In any healthy patriot a passionate love to his/her home country should be balanced by an irresistible desire to leave it".


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Manku Thimma
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My choice would definitely be India. And definitely in my state - Karnataka. There's no other place in the world that's richer in culture, diversity, religious/spiritual heritage, and challenges. By challenges I mean the problems being a "developing" country - illiteracy, lack of infrastructure, corruption...
So what am I doing in the US? Three goals: Get higher education, Get work experience, and make good money. I intend to return to India as soon as my work visa gets over (yes, I've refused green card processing). It's my ambition to help make my town, and my country a better place. Yep, some day...

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I love INDIA not because I have had the opportunity to be born on its soil but because it has been the land of the bold seers of yore who questioned the very existence of this universe and delved deep into the inner self of man and triumphantly declared....'TAT TVAM ASI' meaning 'THOU ARE THAT'.
 
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