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Originally posted by Desai Sandeep:
BTW, I donot understand why US is looking for assistance with Pakistan..even though it knows that Pakistan actively supports Taliban in Afganistan?
Why does it not join hands with India?After all Indians are also the victims of the same for over a decade or so!!
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i doubt Iran will let us fly over their airspace, so that is out of the question... we have to use Pakistan's air.
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i did hear something about maybe iran will help. with our stealth planes it would be hard to prove who's airspace we violated anyway.
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Part of that is India's own fault. India and the US had some bad relations during the cold war because of India's pro-USSR stance. Some people in the US have long memories. If India had been more pro-US, we would probably never have supported Pakistan in the first place.Originally posted by Desai Sandeep:
Hi Why does it not join hands with India?After all Indians are also the victims of the same for over a decade or so!!
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
... India's pro-USSR stance.
The USSR and India forged close ties due in part to the Soviet Union's affirmation of Nonalignment objectives and in part to India's many socialist programs including the nationalization of several large industries. Furthermore, Nehru's "Five Principles" for good relations: sovereignty, non-interference, independence, equality, and non-aggression, were also supported by the USSR. American suspicions of India were further heightened by Krushchev's 1955 visit to New Delhi and the 1971 signing of the Soviet-India Friendship Treaty, which pledged mutual support against antagonistic powers (US and China). The US retaliated by renewing relations with China, which first they bestowed China a seat in the Security Council rejecting Taiwan, and secondly, in the 1972 Sino-American Summit, the Shanghai Communiqu�, which stated their joint rejection of Soviet hegemony in Asia. India identified this shift in American policy and realized that the US had now allied with India's two main threats: China and Pakistan. The obvious irony in Indian and US policy was that both democracies had befriended proponents of communism.
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I agree! I have always been amazed that the US and India didn't have better relations during the cold war.Originally posted by OMAR KHAN:
Anyway what I meant was this: since 15th August 1947, the day India became independent, India has been a Democracy and a free and a proud country. Just like US.
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Originally posted by Sahir Shibley:
The events of the past two weeks gives us sufficient reason to suspect the US government had collaborated with Pakistan's programme for funding and training islamic militants.
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And what, exactly, is the other evil that islamic fundamentalism is the lesser of? I can guarantee that if Dubya does nothing that he will not be re-elected.Originally posted by Sahir Shibley:
The real villain of the piece in the WTC attacks is the US government itself. Inspite of all that happened it cannot bring itself to stop seeing islamic fundamentalism as the lesser of the two evils.
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The real villain of the piece in the WTC attacks is the US government itself. ...My prediction is that all of this is mere talk and they will not lift a finger against the guilty parties.
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Economically, India is very important to us in the long run as you (Indians) are showing yourselves as having the capacity to be the best in the world in technology in spite of your many internal problems, like over-population. People in the US and Europe respect this a lot.
Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
And what, exactly, is the other evil that islamic fundamentalism is the lesser of?
The cold war has been over for 10 years. Communism is dead except in China and no one cares about China as long as they keep making the toys for our McKids meals. To say that the US is sponsoring Islamic fundamentalism in order to fight communism is bizarre. Why not claim we are supporting the fundamentalists to keep the Indians (I mean American Indians) from taking over Fort Apache?Originally posted by Sahir Shibley:
Islamic fundamentalism is seen as a bulwark against communism, hence it is seen by the U.S. as a necessary evil. It is an open secret that the terrorist training camps in Pakistan were set up by the Americans during the cold war. In the absence of evidence that America had subsequently pulled the plug on these camps, the original assumption stands.
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Beats me! Ask the black men who fought in Korea but weren't permitted to vote or attend decent schools in the south.Originally posted by Sahir Shibley:
Why would members of a minority community go out of their way to risk their necks for a country like India that ill treats minorities?
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<B>Prasad</B>
Originally posted by zulfiqar raza:
No you did not 'hurt' my feelings. You just showed your own mentality. Entire books have been written regarding why Pakistan was formed.
Regarding Pakistan's name it was never liked by our founder Mr. Jinnah. It does not necessarily mean 'pure' but it was coined by Chaudhry Mohd. Ali in his Pakistan Movement to mean 'Punjab-Afghania-Kashmir-Sindh-Baluchistan'.
Again read some military history and both sides before you go on claiming about the war in 1949 over Kashmir.
As far as "Jihad" in Kashmir in concerned read up about the United Nations Security council resolution for a plebiscite in Kashmir which was never implemented becuase of Indian instragince.
Where women are regularly raped by Indian soldiers.
Finally Dawood Ibrahim resides in United Arab Emirates.
That's what you and your president says. And that's why I called it "napak".
This is what musharraf said: http://www.indian-express.com/ie20010718/nat16.shtml
This is the fact: http://www.hindustantimes.com/nonfram/100901/dtlfor17.asp
You take care!
India has carefully steered its foreign policy to its own advantage.
Also someone mentioned "Indian tanks in downtown Karachi in 1965".
I have an Afghan colleague who claims that as the Mujahedein were pushing out the Russians out of Afghanistan they actually drove all the way to Moscow. He knows it because he woke up in downtown Kremlin ;-)