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Can Law which was framed and accepted by somebody control us?

 
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I have a serious thought?
Can Law or Constitution or Monarchy whichever rules you in your own country can control us?
it was framed by someone for their own purpose. what has it got to do with me? I think even a Pakistani to be a human-heing just like me though my country hates it.
Who is it to tell us what we do is right or wrong?
I need everybody's view in this.
 
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I can't speak of your country, but in our case the people who draw up our laws represent the people of the United States. We put them in that position and they are supposed to reflect our will. So in effect it is the people who govern themselves, albeit by proxy. A society submits to laws and governance because it is in its best interest. To do otherwise would result in anarchy and the breakdown of society, which does nobody any good.
To answer your question more directly, you should submit to laws drawn up by other people because if you don't then why would anybody else? If nobody is obeying those laws, your way of life is in jeopardy, so it is in your best interest to live within the rules dictated by society.
 
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nobody carrying same views as mine?
quite puzzling.
 
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Originally posted by Jason Menard:
I can't speak of your country, but in our case the people who draw up our laws represent the people of the United States. We put them in that position and they are supposed to reflect our will. So in effect it is the people who govern themselves, albeit by proxy. A society submits to laws and governance because it is in its best interest. To do otherwise would result in anarchy and the breakdown of society, which does nobody any good.
To answer your question more directly, you should submit to laws drawn up by other people because if you don't then why would anybody else? If nobody is obeying those laws, your way of life is in jeopardy, so it is in your best interest to live within the rules dictated by society.


may be you might be right. But just listen to your heart and tell me whether it works the same even for the most poor and the economically and socially weak people?
Do the blacks, brown, or the other dark colored people also have the same rights? answer me this.
 
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Thats why its known as LAW, if u try to fix u'r own laws then there won't be a civilisation.
 
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i think that whatever i mentioned earlier would prove that we are all our own slaves. we dont feel free to discuss what we want to do.
we just blindly follow what is offered to us. why not think differently. because i feel that each drop in that big ocean is a contributor.
 
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Originally posted by Raveendran Karunakaran:
may be you might be right. But just listen to your heart and tell me whether it works the same even for the most poor and the economically and socially weak people?
Do the blacks, brown, or the other dark colored people also have the same rights? answer me this.


Yes, everybody has the same rights under the law (under US law at least). Now just because everybody has these rights, does not mean that there are not people who may seek to deny others of those rights, but that in and of itself is against the law so such an argument cannot hold up.
Having influence or affluence may allow manipulation of laws in a way that may not be possible for somebody who lacks this. For example, people of wealth can sometimes use their wealth to drag court cases through a lengthy set of appeals that an opponent who lacks the financial means may not be able to keep up with. The law entitles everybody to this lengthy appeal process, but a poor person may not be able to actually afford all the lawyer fees that will accrue. The poor person has not been denied any rights under the law, but a simple fact of economics allows the rich person to take better advantage of the law in this case. My example refers to civil, non-criminal proceedings, because anybody is able to receive free legal defense in any criminal proceeding.
I would say our laws give opportunity to all, regardless of social circumstances. This is not true in all countries I'm sure, but here even poor people have the opportunity to better their existance.
 
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Originally posted by Raveendran Karunakaran:

Can Law or Constitution or Monarchy whichever rules you in your own country can control us?


I wanted to comment on this statement. Laws do not control us. We control ourselves. Law, in a free society at least, can be thought of as a contract between ourselves and society that we each agree to abide by. If we do not live up to our part of the contract, then we implicitly agree to make ourselves subject to the penalties for breaking that contract.
Thought of another way, the law does not prevent me from breaking into somebody's house and stealing their television. I prevent myself from breaking into somebody's house because it is against my own personal set of morals, as well as being deemed socially unacceptable. Since I neither wish to live outside my own set of morals nor do I wish to live outside the values that my society has set, I do not break into people's homes. If I did choose to break into somebody's home, then I have broken my contract with society and have implicitly agreed to make myself subject to the penalties prescribed under the law.

[This message has been edited by Jason Menard (edited October 19, 2001).]
 
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Originally posted by Raveendran Karunakaran:
....we just blindly follow what is offered to us. why not think differently....


I was on that stage(when i'm 13), litle bit confused
 
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Originally posted by Raveendran Karunakaran:
i think that whatever i mentioned earlier would prove that we are all our own slaves. we dont feel free to discuss what we want to do.
we just blindly follow what is offered to us. why not think differently. because i feel that each drop in that big ocean is a contributor.


I do not blindly follow what is offered. I carefully consider what is offered. There are laws that I do not agree with, but in the US there are procedures for getting laws changed. I follow that procedure every November.
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