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Randall Twede
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when i started learning java and html and made my first few sites i felt so high. using servlets to access the database of thousands of inventory items was so cool. and i could see if they bought anything and i got requests for a password to see the source code i felt really good. then my savings ran out and i looked for a job and there arent any anymore. now i am so depressed. i dont study anything anymore. im planning to go back to school and learn cobol so maybe someone will hire me. but mainly i cant get any kind of job not only programming so im hoping i can live on financial aid. god bless the USA


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May I help you ?
Shama Khan
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Randall,
Don't be depressed. I would also take some business courses if you're willing to take any kind of jobs. Business courses are really helpful no matter what your major is. Good Luck.


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Nanhesru Ningyake
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Randall, I have seen your posts here at the Ranch, and you definitely do not lack in knowledge/talent/skill.
So why are you finding it hard to get a job? I looked at your profile on the contacts page, and one thing that occurred to me is, you should perhaps change your profile I mean, switch to a sleek Italian frame or contacts from Lenscrafters, shave all that shrubbery on your face, get a haircut, and get a neat business suit from Men's Wearhouse, and similar improvements, until suddenly, you cannot be distinguished from the average faceless American, like the ones among the teeming masses tumbling out of Chicago's Union Station heading to work in downtown Chicago early in the morning.
Believe me - there are companies hiring even now. I myself changed my job in the post Sep 11 period - I was looking for about a month - it was tougher for me because I needed sponsorship. It should be relatively easier for citizens like you, and permanent residents. So just keep a positive attitude, and go for it. Be relentless - and don't be choosy - apply for just about any position. Don't just look at computerjobs.com/ dice.com/ monster.com. Search on Google with your skill keywords - find some meta-job search engines. Here's a good site: BrilliantPeople.com. And, most important, look on subject websites - I am an iSeries (formerly AS/400) programmer - and I found my job on iseriesnetwork.com. It was never picked up by Google.
I also suggest you should hang out with other JavaRanchers in Oregon. You know who

[This message has been edited by Nanhesru Ningyake (edited October 25, 2001).]


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Randall Twede
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nanhesru,
you have a valid point. even the temp agency said it would be better to shave off my mustache and get a haircut. that is for any job. for programming jobs they never even get to see me cause i dont get invited for interview. i think it is because i dont have a degree in CS. only certifications and examples of my work which they dont even look at. so i a m planning to go back to school. thats the plan anyway.
where do we draw the line though? if a company says we will hire you if you get castrated should I just say ok?
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Nanhesru Ningyake
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After I posted that advice, I wasn't sure how you'd take it. Thankfully you weren't offended or anything! I myself am against convention, but often, people's minds are unconsciously trained to reject what's not conventional. And so in the final tally, we don't want that one factor tipping the scales against us.
>if a company says we will hire you if you get castrated should I just say ok
Err, is this "company" in Nevada? Then they might be justified in asking for that
Tony Alicea
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Castration is not visible *unless* you're interviewing in the nude, in which case let me know the name of the company, but hair in the head part of the body is.
Wanna see my hair at my first job, which was with none other than Cornell University at the world's largest Radio-Radar Telescope, the Arecibo Observatory? BTW, I *am* programming here in binary. That is a BIT AT A TIME. Literally (lever up=1, lever down=0)
Here: (1975)
http://mycgiserver.com/~talicea/tony_at_minicomputer.jpg
I guess it was another time and certainly another place...
So I'm not sure of what my recommendation is.. Ah yes! Get a 4-year college degree. That's always my recommendation, esp. now in these times... JUST like it was 25 years ago.
Mine is a B.Sc. in Physics. Graduated in 1974. "Been there, Done everything".
I wish you great luck!


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Anonymous
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Psychiatrists... like to take your money. Too few of them do their jobs right. Seriously though, I really hope you feel better.
 
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