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Art Of Java - Electronic Version

Anselm Paulinus
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Art of Java - Is there a CD in this book or an electronic copy because the book seems to have so much code and one might be interested in running or using some of this code in the course of practice.
James Holmes
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The book does not have a CD with code in it; however, you can download all of the code from my website. Additionally, you can download two sample chapters.
http://www.jamesholmes.com/TheArtOfJava/
Hope that helps,
-James
Cindy Phelps
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There is probably a web-site in the book where you can get the code. I have another java book by Herb Schildt called "Java 2: A Beginners Guide" and that is how you get the code for that book. By the way, it is an excellent book--concise and clear.
Herb Schildt
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Anselm:
As James states, you can get the code from his Web site, or from the publisher's site www.osborne.com . In both cases, its free of charge.

Cindy:
Glad you liked "Java 2: A Beginner's Guide". Thanks!


For my latest books on Java, including my Java Programming Cookbook, see HerbSchildt.com
Ko Ko Naing
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To Mr.James and Mr.Herb,
Is there any plan to publish the book as an electronic version? One might prefer to bring a PDF file in a handy drive, rather than bringing the whole thick book... or does it depend on the publisher to decide the distribution channel to the market?
Or will it be available in InformIT's Safari site as online version of the book?
Thanx in advance...


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Tony Fabeets
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I believe it is to the discretion of the publisher, but I agree that a .pdf would be very convenient when on the go.
Jeroen Wenting
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The big problem with e-books is piracy.
Once a PDF version is out in the wild there's no more control over who has it.
Even while most people here might respect intellectual property rights the general trend almost worldwide is to consider anything in electronic format to be in the public domain, as can be seen from the completely insane proportion of pirated music and software to the legitimate market.
For e-books it's pretty much the same (except the total volume is lower and the subject matter often more specialised and therefore of lesser interest to the general public).
When software developers ask for pirated anti-piracy tools (don't laugh, I've seen it) to protect their own work against piracy all bets are off and that stage was reached 2 years ago.


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Herb Schildt
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Ko Ko:
As Tony suggests, whether or not an electronic version of The Art of Java (or any of my other books) is produced is solely the decision of my publisher (McGraw-Hill/Osborne). At this time, I don't know of any plans to do so.
As Jeroen points out, piracy is a great concern.
The potential problems aside, publishing books in some electronic form is certainly the future. Not that paper will go away any time soon. Paper truely is a great technology! The issue is only "when", not "if"
Ko Ko Naing
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Thank you very much for your reply, Mr.Herb. I'm just curious about the PDF version of the book... Coz I see many computer-related books come in PDF version in these days. If the decision is up to the publisher, we have to wait and see how they open their distribution channel to the public... I can also see that piracy is a big issue in this case...
Jeff Langr
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Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:
The big problem with e-books is piracy.
Once a PDF version is out in the wild there's no more control over who has it.
Even while most people here might respect intellectual property rights the general trend almost worldwide is to consider anything in electronic format to be in the public domain, as can be seen from the completely insane proportion of pirated music and software to the legitimate market.

Eckel's Thinking in Java is available freely and is still one of the best-selling Java books ever. Are his sales diminished by people downloading the PDF and not purchasing the book? Perhaps, although many of the people downloading the book would probably never buy it. But I'll bet that its being free has increased sales overall--many people downloading it recognize its value and choose to buy it. It's a great marketing technique. Most people prefer hardcopy, and it's not very cost effective to print out your own books.
I'm sure it helps to have a highly regarded book. If you're printing junk, then few people would pay for it after they've had the opportunity to download it.
There are many serious discussions going on regarding copyright law and electronic media. Reason Magazine has published a few good articles on alternative solutions. I've got a vested interest as an author as to where this all ends up.
Jeff L.


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Avi Nash
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Originally posted by Jeff Langr:

Most people prefer hardcopy, and it's not very cost effective to print out your own books.
Jeff L.

It is true, but only if the local edition is available, since the US edition will cost very dear.
Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by Avi Nash:

It is true, but only if the local edition is available, since the US edition will cost very dear.

But I found the quality of US edition is a lot better than local edition... I have ever bought Indian edition of a SWING book by O'Reilly. The quality of the paper is bad, compared to the US edition one that my friend has...
Since then I buy US edition only, if I cannot open the package of the book and have a look inside the book...
Yeah, I believe that the US edition is really expensive, compared to local edition....
Jeroen Wenting
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Originally posted by Ko Ko Naing:

But I found the quality of US edition is a lot better than local edition... I have ever bought Indian edition of a SWING book by O'Reilly. The quality of the paper is bad, compared to the US edition one that my friend has...
Since then I buy US edition only, if I cannot open the package of the book and have a look inside the book...
Yeah, I believe that the US edition is really expensive, compared to local edition....

Over here it's the other way around.
Local editions are ALWAYS translations and usually very poor ones indeed.
The same translator will translate a penny-novella today and an advanced text on J2EE design tomorrow for example. That person, not having any IT experience at all, will try for a literal translation. I've seen examples where language keywords were translated for example, and don't even mention basic concepts.
As the market is small for those translations (both because the number of potential buyers is small and because most of those potential buyers prefer the higher quality of the original language version if they know that language) the cost is very high and it is not uncommon that translations cost up to twice the cost of the original despite the high shipping cost of the original.
 
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