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Any Rancher is a Mensa member?

Vikrama Sanjeeva
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Hi guyz,
Is any rancher is a Mensa member?.
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Java ranchers don't need exam.
I tried to solve these boring 'intelligent'problems in school.
Question: complete the sequence:
A E A P ?
Answer is A
Explanation(Second character of every month starting from January)
Where does IQ comes into picture??


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Thomas Paul
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Richard Feynman, Nobel prize winning physicist and one of the smartest men to ever grace this planet, did not have an IQ high enough to join Mensa. So why would I want to join an organization that would deny membership to people because of some artificial, meaningless number?


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I took their test, just to see what I'd score, but I didn't want to join.
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I took the test too a long time ago. There's a preponderance of pattern recognition, abstract-thinking, and strangely enough, vocabulary-based questions in the exam. But that goes a long way to explaining what their organization is about. When they have conventions, many of their social activities stress cleverness and ingenuity, for example, treasure hunts based on obscure clues, etc.
The kind of intelligence the Stanford-Binet scale measures is closest to problem-solving aptitude, which for school exams would seem to make sense. Some intellectual minority camps have complained for decades that such exams stress a cultural form of perception (Western European, naturally, and male-oriented at that), not 'pure' intelligence. It's difficult to separate the political bias from the thesis in those papers, but they're not wrong.
You'd think people whose whole lives turn into problem-solving -- engineers come to mind -- would find this test of intelligence appealing. As for people like Feynman or Einstein, they I think demonstrate that such abilities are but one aspect of overall intelligence. The ability to focus for several hours on n-dimensional models, for example, isn't something a 90-minute test capture very well.
Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
As for people like Feynman or Einstein, they I think demonstrate that such abilities are but one aspect of overall intelligence. The ability to focus for several hours on n-dimensional models, for example, isn't something a 90-minute test capture very well.

Feynman claimed that the idea that won him the Nobel Prize occurred during an a-ha moment. He was throwing pie plates around in the cafeteria at Cornell with a bunch of his friends when it suddenly occurred to him that passing electrons could create the electromagnetic force by passing photons between them. He even pictured how to draw this interaction with the now famous Feynman diagrams.
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They invited me once to take it, but I couldn't find the testing center.
Actually, I used to work in a hotel and we hosted a Mensa party/gathering once. Wow, they are some incredibly strange people!!! One guy I remeber walked around with a bull whip attached to his belt all of them were very unsociable (probably because I was a lowly hotel worker).
Anyway, they didn't strike me as my type of crowd.


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I never took one of Mensa's tests, but in fact they accept quite a few other standardized tests if you score in the top 2% of the general population. I noted that I qualified back when I took the SAT, but the few Mensa members I met didn't make membership sound particularly interesting; I never really looked into it further. And yes, any metric that excludes Feynman is pretty silly anyway.


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Michael Ernest
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Oh, that's right. I remember someone telling me the GRE's might qualify.
Excellence in test-taking might be the one quality that has fewer practical applications after college than high intelligence. Personally, I've only taken one test very seriously, my second GRE. When I realized my first set of scores basically said "you probably should find work," I buckled down.
Before and after that, though, a test to me is a way to demonstrate competence and move on to what's next. Competitiveness I think ought to be fostered in achievement, not potential for achievement.
Vikrama Sanjeeva
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Hi,
Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Richard Feynman, Nobel prize winning physicist and one of the smartest men to ever grace this planet, did not have an IQ high enough to join Mensa. So why would I want to join an organization that would deny membership to people because of some artificial, meaningless number?

Then u should look for solving MILLENNIUM PRIZE PROBLEMS.I hope u will get Noble prize if u solve it as well as $1 million.It requires NO IQ, infact some good thingking as Richard Feynman.
BTW I think its really impressive to see Mensa member, as it definitley a good regard & honor for becoming Mensa member.
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I had a Mensa friend who after four years of working together and frequently hanging out estimated my IQ of being at least 135 and he suggested that I try the test.
I didn't; I wasn't interested then and now even less...
And if Richard Feynman didn't qualify, then I couldn't care less!
Now back to my QED studies... (just kiddin!)
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FYI, I believe Mensa accepts SAT scores and a few other standard exams. I joined briefly, but soon realized that it was pointless for me. The purpose of Mensa is to provide a social setting for intelligent people. Seems like it might be a good idea if you're smart and living in Hicksville, but since I was living in Cambridge, MA and attending MIT, I soon realized that it had very limited value for me.
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Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:
Seems like it might be a good idea if you're smart and living in Hicksville, but since I was living in Cambridge, MA and attending MIT, I soon realized that it had very limited value for me.
And what's wrong with Hicksville?
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&addtohistory=&address=&city=hicksville&state=ny&zipcode=11801&homesubmit=Get+Map
I don't live there (I live next door in Plainview) but within a few short miles are some of the finest universities in the country. And, of course, it's just a short train ride to NYC.
Hicksville, by the way, was named for Valentine Hicks who was president of the Long Island Rail Road in the mid-1800's. He was the man responsible for bringing the trains to Hicksville.
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My last company's MD was Mensa member.
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And what's wrong with Hicksville?
They picked a lame name for their town. Old man Hicks notwithstanding.
[ December 26, 2002: Message edited by: Jim Yingst ]
Thomas Paul
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I was in college then, Tony. Maybe I saw you play.
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Absolutely nothing wrong with Hicksville, I can testify from personal experience!
I WORKED IN HICKSVILLE, LI, NY:
From Jan 77 to July 79 at General Instrument Corporation, Electronic Systems Div (Electronic Warfare Dept), 600 W. John street, Hicksville, NY 11802.
Ha ha! I had a Secret clearance then.
Good ole days!
Me and my friend Ray used to play at some LI bars in the weekends.
Tony Alicea
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Hi Thomas,
What college were you attending?
I was a grad student for only one semester at SUNY, Stony Brook, my first stop in the mainland USA. That was the first semester of the 1976-77 academic year.
By December and almost without trying, I was "bribed" by General Instrument to work for them for the same salary that I would make after I finished an MS degree. And that is exactly what I planned before leaving San Juan, to get a job ASAP in LI. SUNY was only to serve my dream of having been a college student for at least a semester at a University on the mainland. Another story... And a great time! Esp. if you could play guitar decently, he he!
I lived in East Meadow which is south of Hicksville. I would drive north on Carman avenue to get to work.
I better shut up now but I must say it was not only safe but fun to pick up hitchhikers then. One of them invited me in and I met her parents (Levittown) and it was cool. Go figure!
Thomas Paul
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I attended the NY Institute of Technology in Old Westbury.
Funny, but I rarely meet anyone on the internet from my neck of the woods.
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That's because Hicksville doesn't yet have Internet access!! HA HA HA!! Sorry Bad Joke!!!
Seriously, Old Westbury was the first town I heard of that was in Long Island, that because before I made the big jump across the ocean (with the help of American Airlines), the first of my friends to move out to the mainland went to Old Westbury. We corresponded by snail mail a lot until it was my time to move
Then came Stony Brook and especially Port Jefferson: Great Town! Great fish, lobster and all around bars! Hey why not! It was next to Stony Brook which had a really small downtown area. Port Jeff was the place to go on weekends for the students. I wouldn't be surprised if at least then, the Univ. had a larger population than Stony Brook!
 
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