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Ashik Uzzaman
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I would like to have a very interesting forum added in JavaRanch titled Java Glossary. Here we'll talk about the keywords, aliases, terms and definistions that may make a very large vocubulary. For example --- Green Thread, HotFix, JDO Identity, phantom reference etc.
BTW, keep in mind, javaranch will have to open another forum on JDO within a few months...


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Guennadiy VANIN
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Ashik,
here it is
http://www.coderanch.com/t/36612/md/Translation-language-comparison
Jim Yingst
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I think that the basic problem with a forum such as you request is that it would quickly turn into a discussion of anything and everything. It would be very hard to keep discussion focused on definitions only, without having a huge overlap with the subject areas of existing forums. I think that most of the topics you suggest will be better suited to other forums.
It might be nice to have a glossary, true. But by its nature, a glossary would be easy to search, and have short to-the-point explanations of terms. Our discussion groups do not fit that format well. A proper glossary would be carefully edited by one or more interested parties. If someone is interested in creating or maintaining such a resource, we'd probably be able to publish it here. Or you could just take a look at the already-existing Java Glossary put together by Roedy Green. Highly recommended.


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Thomas Paul
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A glossary might be a good thing to try to build with a Wiki.


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Guennadiy VANIN
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Really I did not want to be sarcastic and I am positive on most proposals of Ashik but I did guess the outcome ....
Jim,
nice link.
Guennadiy VANIN
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Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
I think that the basic problem with a forum such as you request is that it would quickly turn into a discussion of anything and everything. Java Glossary put together by Roedy Green. Highly recommended.

There is very nice rule rule in some scientific circles that would be very nice for Javaranch:
do not start any discussion before previously agreeing (or just postulating) defininion of terms and terminology.
Ashik Uzzaman
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Thanks Vanin. I think we java programmers have to deal with a lot various keywords, definitions, terms etc regularly. Ask some java programmer the difference between JNI and JINI, he can't say in many cases. This is not his fault, this is the nature of diversity of java platform and language. I find in many cases that I have to ask what is this or that ( e.g java web start, PersonalJava, difference between j2me configuration and profile). So I thaught it would be a good idea. But I also understand the problem Jim mentioned. If there is a way to control it, I would say it will be a very busy forum always, for beginners, for new java technologies...
Guennadiy VANIN
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Ashik,
I think it is excellent idea.
I would have posted only in that forum!!!
I believe that any problem/question exists untill as far as it is poorly formulated, distorted or underdefined.
Guennadiy VANIN
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
A glossary might be a good thing to try to build with a Wiki.

Thomas,
can you be more specific?
Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by G Vanin:

Thomas,
can you be more specific?

Do you know what a Wiki is?
http://wiki.org/wiki.cgi?WhatIsWiki
Guennadiy VANIN
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No.You explanation is welcome.
Shall I start thread on their server, according their rules and you incorporate link in is forum?
Guennadiy VANIN
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Can anybody explain the meaning of word "satya", that I see frequently at Javaranch?
Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by G Vanin:
Can anybody explain the meaning of word "satya", that I see frequently at Javaranch?

It's a first name.
Jim Yingst
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It's a name meaning "truth" I believe. But it's very unlikely any JavaRanch glossary would ever include definitions of all names that might be encountered.
Michael Ernest
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A Wiki-based FAQ/Glossary I think makes more sense than a forum. The last thing I would care to see is 30-odd posts about a "controversial" definition.
Ashik Uzzaman
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idea Ernest! A glossary that will be updated with reference to discussions in various forums and recommendations from bartenders! Making more sense...
Guennadiy VANIN
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Ashik,
Well, it is not only name, since it is used also out of name context.
I think wiki is good choice since everybody can delete there, irrespectively to bartenders or not, everybody is equal.
Though it is difficult to find there something. To me, at least.
Can you look my question in
http://www.coderanch.com/t/144068/po/certification/Free-Testing-Vouchers-IBM
Marilyn de Queiroz
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Originally posted by G Vanin:
Well, it is not only name, since it is used also out of name context.


I have never seen it used out of a name context. Can you give a link? It is a nickname so perhaps the displayed name on the left side of the post is different. Just as a post by "William" may be signed by "Bill"
[ December 28, 2002: Message edited by: Marilyn de Queiroz ]

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Guennadiy VANIN
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Marilyn,
I remeber it was used as exclamations, or greetings, separate words.
I have difficulties to find something in my own posts, so I shall not search for it immediately but will keep the necessity to stay with link when I find
Thomas Paul
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Someone may start a post with "Satya" if it was addressed to Satya. But it is a nickname that one of our bartenders used to use. He prefers to use his real name now.
Jim Yingst
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idea Ernest!
Or Paul. Or whoever you are.
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
A glossary might be a good thing to try to build with a Wiki.


So I guess it's Paul Ernest


Uncontrolled vocabularies
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Michael Ernest
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It only looks like I said it second. For those of you mired in the diabolical lie that cause precedes effect, I feel your pain.
Guennadiy VANIN
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This topic is very good to ask:
Who is above whom and what they meant in the past:
The Mapper/Sheriff
Site Map/Sheriff
Sheriff
Spitfire Shot/Sheriff
Cowgirl
Trailboss
What are definitions. Is Sheriff some kind of predecessor of policeman? or it is volunteer?
Historically, in the times of cows, who earned more?
I am very sorry, we have here very poor dictionaries, mostly Engish ones
Thomas Paul
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All the prefixes ahead of sherrif are for fun.
Trailboss is Paul Wheaton the owner of JavaRanch. A trail boss was the person in charge of a cattle drive.
Cowgirl is Kathy Sierra who is the founder of JavaRanch.
As to what they mean:
A sherrif was the top law enforcement officer in a town. The men who reported to him were called deputies. The sherrif normally reported to the mayor or other civic leader of the town.
A marshall is a federal position. In territories that were not yet states, federal marshalls were the chief law enforcement officers for the territory. Marshalls are appointed by the president and report to the justice department.
Some states had statewide police officers. For example, Texas had a group called the Texas Rangers who reported to the governor.
Rufus BugleWeed
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Not to be argumentative, but we still have sheriffs here in MO. They are the elected top lawperson in many counties.
Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by Rufus BugleWeed:
Not to be argumentative, but we still have sheriffs here in MO. They are the elected top lawperson in many counties.

We even have sherrifs here in NY. Their job is to be an officer of the court. So if the court says to seize some property, the sherrif is the guy who does it. They also serves writs, orders of protection, and the like. They are responsible for tracking prisoners in the prison system but not for running the prisons.
Michael Ernest
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When did Missouri get statehood??
Jim Yingst
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we still have sheriffs here in MO
Well, duh - that's where we go to talk about you all behind your backs.
You did mean "Moderators Only", right?
Rufus BugleWeed
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When did Missouri get statehood??

1821
BTW this is not MD, this is a friendly place for Java Greenhorns.
Guennadiy VANIN
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Tony Alicea has
"Desperado/Sheriff"
What is "desperado". It resembles "desesperado" (in Portuguese, and might be in Spanish)?
Norm Miller
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Desperado is a desperate man -- an outlaw, a bad guy. (In the context of Tony, just a joke). Comes from the Spanish word for hopeless.
[ January 15, 2003: Message edited by: Norm Miller ]
Thomas Paul
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Usually seen in westerns in the form, "We're gonna catch that desperado and string 'em up!"
Guennadiy VANIN
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Originally posted by Norm Miller:
Desperado is a desperate man -- an outlaw, a bad guy. (In the context of Tony, just a joke). Comes from the Spanish word for hopeless.
[ January 15, 2003: Message edited by: Norm Miller ]


In Portugese, and in Spanish, it is "desesperado" not "desperado".
Do you mean it is English word?
Can you tell me what does Map/Mapper mean (in context of Sheriff)
Cindy Glass
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Desperado is spelled correctly for the English usage.

des�per�a�do ( P ) Pronunciation Key (dsp-r�d, -r-)
n. pl. des�per�a�does or des�per�a�dos
A bold or desperate outlaw, especially of the American frontier.

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[Probably from Spanish desperado, desesperado, desperate person, from past participle of desesperar, to despair, from Latin dsprre. See despair.]
Source: The American Heritage� Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright � 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.


Map/Mapper is a play on words relating to Map Is.
[ January 16, 2003: Message edited by: Cindy Glass ]

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Guennadiy VANIN
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Cindy, thanks for your patience.
I am coming to some understanding of JR and English, simultaneously.
My Harrap's pocket dictionary , has 125 000 meanings and words, is 30 years old. It did not catch with Map's appearance. So, I shall check modernity of dictionary by looking for "Mapper" and completeness by "desperado". Excellent point.
But I am a little worried. Isn't it a personality cult when Map gives herself the name as well as the rank of the Map? and all follow.
I also would like to know (damn my dictionary with 125 000 words and meanings) about JR smilies/emoticons:
what does "rolling eyes" mean, here? I have never seen it in real life.
Is "cool", the face in dark spectacles, mean excellent? or calm?
Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by yidanneuG ninaV:
Cindy, thanks for your patience.
I am coming to some understanding of JR and English, simultaneously.
My Harrap's pocket dictionary , has 125 000 meanings and words, is 30 years old. It did not catch with Map's appearance. So, I shall check modernity of dictionary by looking for "Mapper" and completeness by "desperado". Excellent point.
But I am a little worried. Isn't it a personality cult when Map gives herself the name as well as the rank of the Map? and all follow.
I also would like to know (damn my dictionary with 125 000 words and meanings) about JR smilies/emoticons:
what does "rolling eyes" mean, here? I have never seen it in real life.
Is "cool", the face in dark spectacles, mean excellent? or calm?

Hi Guennadiy,
I'll try to answer your questions. (By the way there are several online English dictionaries. My favorite is http://www.m-w.com
As far as personality cults go, anything that turns Map into a personality cult is a good thing.
"Rolling eyes" means "I can't believe that you said that".
"Cool" means that something is good. "Cool" is an American expression. Perhaps your 30 year old dictionary contains "groovy" which is a similar idea.
Guennadiy VANIN
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Again thanks.
It is not fun at all to fail understanding/finding basic words
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Hi Guennadiy,
But I am a little worried. Isn't it a personality cult when Map gives herself the name
You mean "Mapraputa Is"?
as well as the rank of the Map?
It's not a rank, this is a "pet" name, like "Tom" from "Thomas", or "Gena" from "Gennady". I did not give it to myself, it was invented by Jim Yingst.
If you mean "Site Map", it's just a joke. Historically, its roots are in this thread.
[ January 21, 2003: Message edited by: Mapraputa Is ]
Guennadiy VANIN
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Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
It's not a rank, this is a "pet" name, like "Tom" from "Thomas", or "Gena" from "Gennady". I did not give it to myself, it was invented by Jim Yingst.
If you mean "Site Map", it's just a joke. Historically, its roots are in this thread.
[ January 21, 2003: Message edited by: Mapraputa Is ]

It is more complicated to understand Mapper term. Can you give an anology in terms of Guennadiy?
 
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