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If you are being "nitpicked" read this

Johannes de Jong
tumbleweed
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Joined: Jan 27, 2001
Posts: 5089
Hi All,
I'm posting this topic as place where fellow Java students that are taking the cattle drive can post a message to tell other "drivers" how far they are with the drive ie. which assigment they have completed.
With this I hope to create a means of supporting each other.
If I see that John Doe had completed assigment 1.2 four weeks ago and then silence, heck I can send him an e-mail and ask him why he had stopped, and if possible try and motivate him to start again.
Something like long distance runners do, help each other across the finish line.
Simply post something like : Java-1 a Hundred attemp 1
I will update your "status" on http://www.javaranch.com/ubb/Forum19/HTML/000332.html
Once your "status" has been updated on the Assigment Log please remove your posting this way we can keep this topic short. It makes my life easier. Thanks
Pse dont use this post to gripe about the nitpickers the Drive whatever, lets be thankfull what they do for us (how many brownies for this one "nitpickers"

[This message has been edited by Johannes de Jong (edited March 19, 2001).]
Manju Jain
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Joined: Feb 08, 2001
Posts: 168
Nudging each other is a good idea.
Well, I've passed Say and awaiting nitpicking for Say [4b]
The nipickers are doing a fantastic job and I don't want to be the one to bring a frown on their face.
David Junta
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Joined: Dec 10, 2000
Posts: 86
You just finished 1.3?
Hey Johannes what took you so long?
bill bozeman
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Joined: Jun 30, 2000
Posts: 1070
Johannes,
I like your idea also. Especially when it comes to 4.b That one took me the longest, I think 7 tries. Well it was 7 tries for all of assignment 4, I did that one when it wasn't a requirement that you do part A first and then part B. It probably would have helped me if I did part A first and then part B.
But anyways, I know during my 6th or 7th try, when the code did work, it just wasn't in its best format, I came close to saying forget it a couple of times. I am so glad I stuck with it though.
I am currently working on assigment OOP-3 SortNames. Just made my second submission.
Bill
[This message has been edited by bill bozeman (edited March 09, 2001).]
Andy Ceponis
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Joined: Dec 20, 2000
Posts: 782
Wait up guys, i just started this week and am still on assignment 1.
bill bozeman
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Joined: Jun 30, 2000
Posts: 1070
Sorry folks, I am trying to get to the servlet courses.
Marilyn, are the servlet classes open. I saw the link at the end of the OOP assignments that lead you to the servlet ones, but there wasn't a link on the main CattleDrive page, so I wasn't sure if they were open.
Also, with those assignments, I saw some of them have 6 or 7 classes with them. Would it be easier for you if we did those as a zipped attachment, or would it still be easeier in an email. I would think the email would get rather large.
Bill
Marilyn de Queiroz
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We're in the process of revising the servlet assignment page. Give me a day or two.

We're sticking with the "in the body of the message" type submission. No attachments.

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Peter Gragert
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Joined: Jan 16, 2001
Posts: 424
I am waiting for nitpickking of Say , fourth version.
Peter
David Junta
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Joined: Dec 10, 2000
Posts: 86
I'm working on 4b (Say)...will submit my 3rd version tonight.
Beth Beardsley
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 07, 2001
Posts: 9
I've just started on this site myself and actually enjoy being "nitpicked" I'm only just learning Java and have no computer background. Up until I became disabled I've been
giving dogs haircuts and servicing fish tanks. I feel a little out of my depth and really need more feedback than what I get in a class of twenty. I'm on my third submition of the first assignment. Hopefully it'll be OK this time.
bill bozeman
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Joined: Jun 30, 2000
Posts: 1070
Johannes, I am still on OOP 3 - SortNames. Your list had me a little further than I was.
Bill
med bill
Greenhorn

Joined: Oct 27, 2000
Posts: 12
Hi
I am still at the 1st assign, i just submitted it for the third time. I made so many versions that the one i sent in last time wasn't even compiling. I hope this one gonna pass. I really appreciate the nitpicker when i understand what they want me to change in my code. So far i am starting to get the hints.
Thanks
Joe Von
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Joined: Feb 22, 2001
Posts: 32
I'm working on 1b. I've got prior programming experience so at first I thought "This is easy" and I just whipped off verisons and sent 'em in without much thought.
I'm now on my third or fourth wack at it, and learning the meaings of 'detail' and 'humility'.
Ed Byrnes
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Joined: Feb 04, 2001
Posts: 33
It's a great idea letting everyone know where we are. I'm just starting the second part of Say, Java 4b. I decided to do searches here in the Cattle Drive forum to give me a better idea of what might be a good approach and found this thread.
Ellen Smith
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 01, 2001
Posts: 7
Well, I am on my first revision of 1b. It took 4 tries for. At this rate, by the time I learn Java, they'll probably stop selling the product, .

Richard Boren
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Joined: Mar 01, 2001
Posts: 233
Just sent in my first attempt at assignment #2 (EvenOrOdd).
Ranch Hand
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 13, 2001
Posts: 7
Hey all,
Great Idea. A good support for those with no real support from other sources.
just starting 1a.
Cheers.
med bill
Greenhorn

Joined: Oct 27, 2000
Posts: 12
Hi
I just passed Assignement 1a, working on 1b 2 nite.
So far i am learning a lot from the nitpicks.

Diana Ryan
Greenhorn

Joined: Jan 17, 2001
Posts: 12
Hi All,
I was going at a pretty good pace until I hit Say, formerly 1.4, now 4 I guess... That had to be more than a month ago.
It just didn't look like anything I had ever tried before, is that even useful?? Then got bogged down in work and so that's where I'm stuck. I haven't even given it a first shot yet.
It's encouraging to see that some of you have gotten through that assignment. I guess I just want to see how I would use something like Say in real programming situations. If I want to say this data is equal to that other data, don't I usually pull that out of a database rather than create a bunch of arrays?
Thanks,
~ Diana
Marilyn de Queiroz
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Joined: Jul 22, 2000
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Arrays are useful containers. It's good to know how to use them. Perhaps you'll want to store data from your database in an array sometime.

I doubt you'll ever need to use a program exactly like Say in a real programming situation. However, we're trying to help you learn general things, like how to build and access arrays, how to make your own methods, how to start small and build up to a larger program, etc.

Diana Ryan
Greenhorn

Joined: Jan 17, 2001
Posts: 12
Thanks you guys :^)
So far this has been a really positive experience and I appreciate Marilyn very much too.
I'll see if I can squeeze this in on Thurday and give it a shot.
-Marilyn please go easy on me as I'm a bit intimidated by this one!
~ Diana
Beth Beardsley
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 07, 2001
Posts: 9
I hope this Say assignment isn't that dificult or I may just through in the towel. They are rushing us through so much at the school and the basic hope is just for any code to work never mind the how and what fors. I'm still waiting for a return on the first assignment but I cheated and already have the next one ready for submission. Hope the formatting problem isn't in my remote mail or I may never get done. Thanks for the support.
Pres Brawner
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Joined: Jan 18, 2001
Posts: 92
I just choked through 1.4. It was a tough chew. Compared to it 1.5 has been soup.
Good luck all.
Pres
med bill
Greenhorn

Joined: Oct 27, 2000
Posts: 12
Hi,
Just submitted 1b, i passed the 1a after 3 tries.
Med
Manju Jain
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Joined: Feb 08, 2001
Posts: 168
I've submitted my 3rd version of Say 4b but I have a hunch that there's still some work needed on it.
Michael Pearson
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Joined: Mar 11, 2001
Posts: 351
Another newbie...
I just got back Hundred 1a.
Constructive criticism has never been so much fun.
Beth Beardsley
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 07, 2001
Posts: 9
Was just allowed to move on to even or odd assignment. Still having a problem with the code arriving in the same condition I sent it. Oh well. I'll figure something out I'm sure.
Joe Von
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Joined: Feb 22, 2001
Posts: 32
Johannes,
You've got me down as being on Java-4 (say) on your nifty little table.
Much as I wish this were true I am in fact on Java-1b (Hundred part two).
Thanks muchly,
Joe
pete hesse
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Joined: Aug 29, 2000
Posts: 44
I completed assignment 1b. Have submitted Java-2, waiting for response. Pls add me to the log.
henry wu
Greenhorn

Joined: Dec 01, 2000
Posts: 23
Hi all,
I'm new to Cattle Drive and just submitted 1a.. I hope I don't get nitpicked too badly.
-Henry
Connie Boyd
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Joined: Feb 22, 2001
Posts: 73
Hi Johannes!
I deleted my former post, and I would just like to inform you that I submitted my first try of Say(A) this morning. Thanks for keeping track of our progress, and wish me luck!
Ranch Hand
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 13, 2001
Posts: 7
Multiple annoyance.
HAven't received a reply yet. So just sent it off again.
But have done upto Times.
The Say 4a was really fun, then I did Say 4b. Hey and that was even better.
I reckon if you want to do Say you should do 4a, then attempt 4b then go back and check what you did in 4a and submit 4a for revision.
I managed to shave 5 lines off my original 4a code that way.
Cheers.
Pat Barrett
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Joined: Jan 03, 2001
Posts: 63
Hello Johannes,

I've been given permission to proceed to the Lookup assignment - 3.4. Version 1 will be going in today.
Pat B.
Laura Holcombe
Greenhorn

Joined: Jan 07, 2001
Posts: 8
Add my name to the list. I am on Say 4a 2nd try. Thanks for tracking us and keeping us working!
laura
Adalberto Altamirano
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 06, 2001
Posts: 8
I emailed five assigments and I haven't received any answer.
Should I continue email it or wait until I get answer about my previous one?
is the email wrong? i am using nitpick@javaranch.com
Thanks
Marilyn de Queiroz
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Originally posted by Adalberto Altamirano:
I emailed five assigments and I haven't received any answer.
Should I continue email it or wait until I get answer about my previous one?
is the email wrong? i am using nitpick@javaranch.com
Thanks

FIVE?! Did you read http://www.javaranch.com/drive/about.jsp ?
It says, "You do the first one, and we'll tell you how you screwed it up. You send back the revision, and we repeat the process. If we can't find anything to pick at, we'll send you the instructor's solution. Then you move on to the next assignment."

I've received your submissions. You will received a reply shortly. We're running a little behind right now due to the volume of new students. Be patient.
Elisabeth Van
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Joined: Feb 09, 2001
Posts: 42
I submitted Java-4b a couple days ago.
Took FOREVER to get through 4a. Marilyn must have had a few laughs over the way I was trying to approach it, and especially how hard I fought against changing that approach. Of course, once I abandoned my approach, my code got much leaner and easier to follow. Thanks for pushing me toward the light!
ryan burgdorfer
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Joined: Jan 24, 2001
Posts: 219
<h1>YeeeHAW!!!</h1>
I finally passed 4b (Billion v. of Say)...only took 5 tries
Now, I'm on my 1st submission of Java-5...
Kind of scary how similar my version was to the instructors. Even the mothod names...*insert Twilight Zone music*
Thank you, thank you very much.


<UL TYPE=SQUARE><I><LI>Ryan Burgdorfer<BR><LI>Java Acolyte</I></UL>
Carol Murphy
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I have submitted Assignments 1a, 1b, and 2. I haven't been nitpicked yet. Are they avoiding me? I've just started Assignment 3 but my work schedule is brutal this week so I don't know when I'll get around to completing it. Anxiously awaiting my first nitpicking.
Marilyn de Queiroz
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You should only be submitting one assignment at a time. If you haven't heard back from 1a yet, then check up on that one. Don't send any more until you have the ok to move forward.
 
It is sorta covered in the JavaRanch Style Guide.
 
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