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Hi everyone, This is my first time to visit the Java Ranch. I'm extremely anxious to learn Java, but I don't really now where to start. I have a very, very limited background in C++. Most of my programming experience has been with VB. My goal is to pass the SCJP so that I can move on to better opportunities. So far I've started to read Bruce Eckel's Thinking in Java. I'm frustrated right now because I'm really getting bogged down with the first chapter which deals with an introduction to objects. I just can seem to grasp the concept. I've also ordered Just Java 2, and I'm hoping that I'm able to get more out of it. Anyway, I'm looking for advice and suggestions in regards to the best approach for a beginner to learn Java, and also how I might grasp the concepts of OOD. Thanks in advance for the help. Jeff [This message has been edited by Jeff McIlvain (edited January 24, 2001).]
Objects really are a fundemental concept in OOP, and if you can't get past that, you aren't going to be able to make very efficient use of Java. Is there anything in particular we can help you with? Any part you really just don't get?
To some extent VB has an object approach. There are things called applications, files, worksheets etc. (objects) and they each have certain things that they can do like minimize, open, close etc (methods). C++ is also object oriented. Perhaps you need a book just on OO before you tackle Java. Check out the book reviews at http://javaranch.com/books.jsp
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I think you may find Just Java 2 a lot like TIJ in that it may not be the best book to begin with. It is a wonderful java book, but not necessarily for absolute beginners (just regular beginners ). My intro to Java class used Java Software Solutions (Lewis & Loftus) but it's pretty dry. Maybe you could ask those in an intro class what book they're using and start there. [This message has been edited by Janna Lockhart (edited January 24, 2001).]
Hi, I'm also a beginner.we need to be strong enough in C++ to start with java,'cos it is the basis for java.Also 'cos u have exposure to VB u will find Applets & swing & Html to be easy to learn.But start with good books on C++.
you dont have to know c++ to learn java ... BUt ofcourse you need to understand OOPs Jeff did you get a chance to look at Java 2 The Complete Reference Third Edition by Patrick Naughton and Herbert Schildt Its a very good book ... try it out
[This message has been edited by kavya krushi (edited January 25, 2001).]
Try some online tutorial before reading Thinking in java. sun has a good one at their site http://java.sun.com/ My first thought on reading Thinking in java was "Im glad I read the tutorial first or I wouldnt know what hes talking about" java is also based on C++ One could even argue that it is easier to learn java without knowing C++. I had no problem.