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anyone know a good java book?

Nicole Smith
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I'm almost done taking my first java class and would like to buy a book about learning java that is straightforward and easy to understand, hopefully w/alot of code examples. Does anyone know a good one? Also, how about more of a reference book for java?
Thanks alot!
Cindy Glass
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Have you checked out the BunkHouse? It is full of reviews on books done by our moderators.
http://www.javaranch.com/books.jsp


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Cindy Glass
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PS. There is also a Book Review forum that we JUST started (look down lower on the forum list) that has these reviews and allows our users to discuss the books.
http://www.javaranch.com/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Book+Reviews&number=49&DaysPrune=1000&LastLogin=
Dennis Hicks
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Joined: Jul 09, 2001
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Hi -
I'm using 'A programmers guide to Java certification - a comprehensive primer' by Khalid Mughal and Rolf Rasmussen.
It's certainly got loads of code examples and questions in it.
I think that it's a very good book - IMHO
Cheers,
Den
Dennis Hicks
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Joined: Jul 09, 2001
Posts: 12
And for reference - Java in a nutshell, Flanagan, O'Reilly publishers.
It's got a brilliant class index at the back....
Snylt Master
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Joined: Jul 07, 2001
Posts: 55
I'm using Complete java 2 certification study guide. I've already read it ones.... now I'm going deep into it
Anyways, it's an excellent book. I recommend this book.

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Preparing for the Java 2 Certification exam


Preparing for the Java 2 Certification exam
Cindy Glass
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Personally - I like Just Java 2 for starters, the ones mentioned above are for studying for Certification. Java in a Nutshell does not include any AWT or IO stuff, you have to get the second bood Java Foundation Classes in a Nutshell to get full coverage.
Joe Wolf
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Joined: Jul 05, 2001
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I found Que's "Special Edition: Using Java 1.1" to be a really helpful learning tool/reference manual. Not only has it explained the language itself with understandable detail, but it explains other important java-related things like JDBC, JavaBeans, Sevlets, JDK tools, and O-O programming. They probably have a newer version out, but the one I found was only 10 bucks...and it included Visual J++ 1.0.
Cindy Glass
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Of course since J++ is a dead language, that part has minimal value.
I will have to look to see if we have that one in our list.
Yep. not too good a rating though (2 out of 10). http://www.javaranch.com/ubb/Forum49/HTML/000014.html
Tom Pelly
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Joined: Jun 29, 2001
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I've been learning from 'Object-Oriented Programming with Java' by David Barnes. Published by Prentice Hall.
I recon it's pretty much the best java book I've seen so far.
Cindy Glass
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Is it good at the OO part? It is one thing to have a good Java Book and quite another to get a good book on Object Orientation.
I don't think I've ever seen that book.
Joe Wolf
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J++ is a language? I assumed it was Microsoft's own version of the JDK (otherwise why would my book teach me Java 1.1 and come with a kit that compiled a different language?). Does this mean Borland C++ and Visual C++ are different languages?
Cindy Glass
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J++ was MicroSofts version of "embrace and expand" with the expand portion intending to create a captive audience. It also violated the General Public License that Sun put Java out with causing MicroSoft to lose a lawsuit with Sun.
Perhaps you could call it MicroSofts version of Java instead of a different language, but MicroSoft preferred to downplay the fact that it was really Java in disguise.
Kishore Dandu
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The following are very good books.
1) core Java Volume 1 & 2
2) How to program Java Deitel & Deitel

Kishore
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Tom Pelly
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Joined: Jun 29, 2001
Posts: 14
To answer Cindy's question on the book 'Object-Oriented Programming with Java' - it's pretty good at explaining both OO and java.
I'm not sure if it's got to America though, as it's an English publication... still, it's worth having a look for!
Bosun Bello
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Cindy, a good book on OO Java is Beginning java Objects by Jacquie Barker (Wrox press). Better if used in conjuction with Beginning Java 2, by Ivor Horton.

Bosun


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Matthew Phillips
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Joined: Mar 09, 2001
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Originally posted by Dennis Hicks:
Hi -
I'm using 'A programmers guide to Java certification - a comprehensive primer' by Khalid Mughal and Rolf Rasmussen.
It's certainly got loads of code examples and questions in it.
I think that it's a very good book - IMHO
Cheers,
Den

I second the recommendation of this book. It is a good book for certification and learning to code.
Matthew Phillips


Matthew Phillips
Serge Plourde
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Joined: Jun 23, 2000
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Hi, from the list of suggestions above I would strongly recommend Beginning Java Objects: From Concepts to Code
and Thinking in Java.
Note that you can get Thinking in Java free at this link:
http://www.mindview.net/Books/DownloadSites
Hope this helps!
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vasuma puljety
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Joined: Jun 01, 2001
Posts: 35
Thinking in java is the best. I read core java along with it, but its size made me feel nervous( its so heavy , I had to lie down on my side and keep it on the bed to read it ).Since TIJ is free, I recommend downloading it. Hope this helps.


Sun certified , with the lowest score possible.
Doris Hilgartner
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Joined: Apr 29, 2001
Posts: 2
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This book has examples for EVERYTHING DISCUSSED
http://www.osborne.com/programming_webdev/0078825709/0078825709.shtml
(This was the only site I was able to find the most recent print version)
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Bryan Timmins
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Joined: Mar 26, 2001
Posts: 48
I recommend:
"Java: How to Program" by Deitel and Deitel
"The Java Language Specification" from Sun
Roberts, Heller, Ernst for Certification
"Java 2" by Litwak is great, code-intensive
"The Java Developer's Almanac" from Sun - ESSENTIAL

<a href="http://www.bryantimmins.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Bryan Timmins</a> <br />SCJP2
sajjad ahmed
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Joined: Jul 28, 2001
Posts: 1
1)Java2 by balaguru samy and
2)Complete Reference i think the author is robert
SYED ABDUL SAMI
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Joined: Jul 31, 2001
Posts: 1
WELL IN MY OPINION IVER HORTEN IS BEST FOR BEGGINERS AT LEAST THATS WHAT MY EXPERIANCE SAYS
HEAR FORM YOU
SAMI

Originally posted by Nicole Smith:
I'm almost done taking my first java class and would like to buy a book about learning java that is straightforward and easy to understand, hopefully w/alot of code examples. Does anyone know a good one? Also, how about more of a reference book for java?
Thanks alot!

Noorulain Khan
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Joined: Jul 31, 2001
Posts: 28
check website: www.javaonline.4t.com
Its best for SCJP preparation and as well as beginners.
Plus, Ivor Horton's JAVA 2 for Programmers
is worth referring but dont miss even a single line.
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