Here's my info regarding why I'm blowing up with a "NoClassDefFoundError" from my earlier post. I also still appear to have classpath problems, since I can only run if I put a package statement at the top of each .java file that I run. The program that is blowing up is entitled Access.java and resides in c:\java. Prior to compiling it, I put the following package statement at the very top of Access.java: package com.gfarms.geometry; I then compile c:\Access.java then copy Access.class to c:\java\com\gfarms\geometry Something still is wrong with my class path since if I don't put a package in ALL my .java files, they won't run!! Anyway, here's my path and classpath statements in c:\autoexec.bat path=c:\windows;c:\windows\command;c:\jdk1.3.0_02\bin;c:\java\; set classpath=c:\jdk1.3.0_02\lib;c:\java\; Any help would be deeply appreciated!