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R K Singh
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Coca Cola to pay Rs 1 lakh as compensation
In other report which is pending in court for final hearing, coke and pepsi both are found gulity of selling adulterated [with harmfull chemicals] drinks.
AW I drink my whisky/rum with Soda or water. Neat coke/pepsi.. no way


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"...it was revealed that some foreign material was present in the contents of the bottles, which was injurious to human health."
I wonder what it was.


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Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
Coca Cola to pay Rs 1 lakh as compensation
In other report which is pending in court for final hearing, coke and pepsi both are found gulity of selling adulterated [with harmfull chemicals] drinks.
AW I drink my whisky/rum with Soda or water. Neat coke/pepsi.. no way


how safe is ur whisky,rum,soda,water??
have u ever seen the disterillies, then i bet u wont consume these stuff anymore.
have u ever checked the pesticides farmers are using for vegetables and fruits.
have u ever seen the places where the spinach are cultivating in bby and delhi.
have u ever checked the nickel level in all chocolates in india.

R K Singh
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
I wonder what it was.

If giant like Coke is ready to pay then it must be something ?
R K Singh
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My ex is back in action

how safe is ur whisky,rum,soda,water??

[hic]
have u ever seen the disterillies, then i bet u wont consume these stuff anymore.
I saw Mohan Mekins Distillery in Gaziabad(Near Delhi). It was not bad at all [at least to nude eyes ].
have u ever checked the pesticides farmers are using for vegetables and fruits.
Latest cartoons show Pepsi and Coke being used as pesticides for the latest findings proof that there are pesticides in them.
have u ever seen the places where the spinach are cultivating in bby and delhi.

have u ever checked the nickel level in all chocolates in india.

Have you ever been to sugar plant.
You wont eat sugar after that
I been there and still eat because its the way sugar is made.
Or have you seen making of vinegar ?
Again its the way it is made.
But the latest case which is against Coke and Pepsi is about negligence to provide safe drinks.
R K Singh
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
[QB][/QB]

That was old case which settled now.
Here is the latest controversy of pesticides.
Jim Yingst
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Coca Cola to pay Rs 1 lakh as compensation
For anyone else who was wondering, 1 lakh = 100000 of something. Rs 1.1 lakh is about US$2400. Which by itself, is unlikely to force Coke to change their business practices any time soon, I would think.
[TP]: I wonder what it was.
I suspect it's directly tied to this story. Except that the new story does indicate that one batch in particular was identified as especially bad - which sounds like maybe it's something other than the ground water pesticides which seem to be standard.
[RK]: If giant like Coke is ready to pay then it must be something ?
I didn't see anything in the article indicating Coke's reaction to the judgement. So "ready to pay" may be an overstatement.


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Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
I didn't see anything in the article indicating Coke's reaction to the judgement. So "ready to pay" may be an overstatement.

Although if it only costs $2400 to make your pain go away then why not pay it?
R K Singh
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Although if it only costs $2400 to make your pain go away then why not pay it?

Its not about money
In India, where corruption is high, winning such case is very difficult as most of the time big companies can pay more money to judge than paying such small amount to consumer for losing such cases makes their reputation questionable.
But seriously, reaction here are surprising.
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But seriously, reaction here are surprising.
How so?
R K Singh
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I was expecting people to ask "How can a company with this repute can do this ?"
but here amount is being discussed
AW expect unexpected
BTW what is Map's new signature ??
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I was expecting people to ask "How can a company with this repute can do this ?"
but here amount is being discussed

But see, the two are linked. The reason the company evidently felt they could do it is because they didn't think the risk of penaly was enough to deter them. So the amount of the penalty is relevant, because it can affect how much deterrence effect this judgement will have in the future. It's not the only factor, but it certainly could have been significant. In this case the amount is not really enough to affect Coca-Cola, so instead we can hope that the bad publicity will be more significant in effecting change. Or maybe this one court case will be indicative of a changing legal situation that will allow larger penalties in the future.
The other factor is, I personally had no idea how much Rs 1.1 lakh was, so I looked it up, and having done so, shared the info for the benefit of others who might be in the same situation.
BTW what is Map's new signature ??
It's a quote from this.
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BTW what is Map's new signature ??
I also would like to know!
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R K Singh
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Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
The other factor is, I personally had no idea how much Rs 1.1 lakh was, so I looked it up, and having done so, shared the info for the benefit of others who might be in the same situation.

ya.. you are right I should have given the amount in numbers. Its old and famous, 'copy & paste' problem and second its so commonly used in English [not in Hinglish ] in India that I forgot that here I am sharing info with international audience.
but hey , its available here too.
right now lot of work .. will catch you later.
Richard Hawkes
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Coke makes my teeth feel weird. I only drink it when I have a hangover and I prefer it semi-flat.
Thomas Paul
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I'm still not sure what the story is. They found pesticide in Coca-Cola. How did it get there? Is it in the drinking water? If so, then is it really the fault of Coca-Cola? Are they supposed to hunt down the farmers and arrest them? It seems to me that if your water sucks then making soda out of the water isn't going to make it suck less.
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I smell some hidden agenda or election funding gimmick by Government for forthcoming elections.Ofcourse that doesn't make Coke/Pepsi or any softdrink company less serius.If Government is really serius about the health of people and Coke REALLY contains some pesticides,why Govt. doesn't close Coke's plants across the country?Now that Institute which found these'pesticides' hasn't reacted on response given by Coke/Pepsi saying Insitute all allegations are baseless.


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Don't worry, just try Jim Bean. Coke and Pepsi ain't Jim Beam. These ain't Jim Beam. Jim Beam.........
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Thomas : I'm still not sure what the story is. They found pesticide in Coca-Cola. How did it get there? Is it in the drinking water? If so, then is it really the fault of Coca-Cola?
Water can be made fit for drinking. It's not that all the water that is sold in India is unfit for drinking though the majority may be. In case they can not make it fit for drinking then they can atleast accept their fault(if they know they are guilty) and tell the customer to expect a clean Coke/Pepsi in future or tell them straightaway it may contain harmful chemicals drink at your risk.
There are many parts of the world where pesticides etc. are used. This may contaminate the ground water. Its not that its only in India that the pesticides are used.
Capablanca : Now that Institute which found these'pesticides' hasn't reacted on response given by Coke/Pepsi saying Insitute all allegations are baseless.
I have seen them backing their report and still saying that their results are quite true.
R K Singh
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Is it in the drinking water? If so, then is it really the fault of Coca-Cola?

Hi Thomas

are you sure what are you saying is what you want to say ?? :roll:
R K Singh
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I smell some hidden agenda or election funding gimmick by Government for forthcoming elections.
Other infamous problem of an Indian, he sees everything through the glass of election [I see too ]
If Government is really serius about the health of people and Coke REALLY contains some pesticides,why Govt. doesn't close Coke's plants across the country?
It was found by a NGO.
Now that Institute which found these'pesticides' hasn't reacted on response given by Coke/Pepsi saying Insitute all allegations are baseless.
Oh .. yes I forgot to update you guys on this issue.
Govt has cleared Coke & Pepsi. That was expected
But if you read between the lines then you will find that how Ms. Shushma is telling a HALF truth to a nation which is more dangerous than a lie.
Now thanks to open & free journalism. Here is what CSE has to say.
Paul Stevens
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Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:

Hi Thomas

are you sure what are you saying is what you want to say ?? :roll:

He said exactly what he meant to say. Are you saying it is ok for the drinking water to be contaminated. It seems that the focus is all wrong. The problem is not purifying the drinking water for everyone. Whose responsibility is that. The Governments right.
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Sushma Swaraj
{
The results clearly show that all the 12 samples do not have pesticide residues of the high order as was alleged in the CSE report. In some cases, they are well below the EU standards and in some, a few times higher than the EU limit.
}
Ms Marain from CSE
{
Of 12 samples sent to the Central Food Technological Research Institute (CFTRI), Mysore, just three met European standards. Nine samples showed residues higher than EU norms by between 1.6 and 5.2 times -- exceeding EU norms but well below CSE findings that these exceeded the norms by a range of 11 to 70 times. Kolkata's Central Food Laboratory also found nine of 12 samples above EU limits by 1.2 to 5.22 times.
}
True,Swaraj is telling half truth.75% of samples contain residues higher than EU norms and she is saying they are safe to drink.
Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
are you sure what are you saying is what you want to say ?? :roll:

Yes, I am saying exactly what I mean. If the farmers have polluted the drinking water and Coke is simply using the same drinking water that everyone else is using how can Coke be held responsible? Safe drinking water is the responsibility of the government. Or do you think that Coke is disposing of some left over pesticides that they had sitting around?
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Hi all
They are not using the goverment supplied water. They are using groundwater for the cold drinks. Now its their responsibility to clean the water.
Though I think that the goverment supplied water may be even worse.
Whats the fun in making norms for packaged drinking water when the water being supplied by the goverment is itself not clean. The only benefit I see is that now people wouldn't have a false sense of security that they are drinking clean water.
[ August 22, 2003: Message edited by: Anupam Sinha ]
R K Singh
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Hi Paul [both are addressed ]
First of all, I am not sure that they are using Govt. supplied water [which is generally called municipality water].
Unfortunately here urban rich class arrange its own water[mostly by boring] and only poor uses govt. supplied water [yes its irony of India]
First of all I am 99.99% sure that it is not municipality water because Indian Govt cant provide so much water, which is consumed by these manufacturers
Even for a moment if we agree that it is water supplied by Govt/XYZ Pvt company, it is Coke/Pepsi's responsibility to choose good supplier and provide safe drink.
We pay for the quality.[here still coke is expensive than water ]
AW just question to both of you and PLEASE do reply to this.
500 Mercedese cars are out in the market whose break does not work properly because of poor quality of break.
Breaks are supplied by "ABC Inc." and assembled at BMW workshop.
Buyer is not aware of ABC Inc.
The buyer is buying beacuse it is Mercedese[Reputated firm]. He finds later that Breaks are of poor quality.
What do you think, buyer's complaint will be against whom ?
Whose responsibility is to USE good quality breaks ?
Paul Stevens
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Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
Hi Paul [both are addressed ]
First of all, I am not sure that they are using Govt. supplied water [which is generally called municipality water].
Unfortunately here urban rich class arrange its own water[mostly by boring] and only poor uses govt. supplied water [yes its irony of India]
First of all I am 99.99% sure that it is not municipality water because Indian Govt cant provide so much water, which is consumed by these manufacturers
Even for a moment if we agree that it is water supplied by Govt/XYZ Pvt company, it is Coke/Pepsi's responsibility to choose good supplier and provide safe drink.
We pay for the quality.[here still coke is expensive than water ]
AW just question to both of you and PLEASE do reply to this.
500 Mercedese cars are out in the market whose break does not work properly because of poor quality of break.
Breaks are supplied by "ABC Inc." and assembled at BMW workshop.
Buyer is not aware of ABC Inc.
The buyer is buying beacuse it is Mercedese[Reputated firm]. He finds later that Breaks are of poor quality.
What do you think, buyer's complaint will be against whom ?
Whose responsibility is to USE good quality breaks ?


The difference is the government supplies water then cracks down on the manufacturer for poor water. If in fact they are getting their own water supply, then your analogy is correct.
Murasoli Maran
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:

Or do you think that Coke is disposing of some left over pesticides that they had sitting around?

Why not?.Coke/Pepsi should make sure the quality of their products.Unless if someone thinks 'Coke mixed pesticides in drink',You cant blame him.Coke/Pepsi desperately failed to manage their quality.It's strange to hear that they contain pesticides in their drinks supplied in india only.
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shame to every indian
[ August 22, 2003: Message edited by: Murasoli Maran ]
basha khan
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which is tastier?.
a)coca-cola
b)pepsi
c)tender cocunut water
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Originally posted by Murasoli Maran:
shame to every indian
[ August 22, 2003: Message edited by: Murasoli Maran ]

Why do you say that? How do you know what that NGO is saying is actually true? It could be a publicity stunt. There are so many environmental issues in India. Why would a nondescript NGO take on Pepsi and Coke if not for publicity?
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Originally posted by basha khan:
which is tastier?.
a)coca-cola
b)pepsi
c)tender cocunut water

c.fresh tender coconut water
Arjun Shastry
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Now whom should I believe now? COKE,Government or that Center for Environmental Studies?Till that I will drink just milk and coconut water
R K Singh
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Originally posted by sunitha raghu:

c.fresh tender coconut water

packaged in bottle
R K Singh
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Originally posted by Murasoli Maran:
shame to every indian

Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
Govt has cleared Coke & Pepsi. That was expected

Cant you see my red face, closed eyes and mouth open like pig
Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by Murasoli Maran:
It's strange to hear that they contain pesticides in their drinks supplied in india only.
Why? When they manufacture in India they are getting their water from India. The water in India is polluted. Therefore the Coke will contain pesticides. I suppose they could import the water from the US but I would imagine that would drive the price up by quite a bit.
Instead of complaining about Coke you should be complaining to your government to provide a clean, safe water supply.
R K Singh
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
When they manufacture in India they are getting their water from India.

Thanks God, you did not say they get water from Indian Govt.
Yes, its NOT responsibility of Coke to maintain its quality
BTW you did not reply to my question.
 
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