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Dennis Basham

Joined: Feb 04, 2002
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_Java From the Beginning_, and _Just Java 2_ both show copyright dates 2 years old. Would you recommend JFtB to someone with NO programming experience? Is it up to date?
Thanks, DB
Marilyn de Queiroz

Joined: Jul 22, 2000
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Just Java 2 is a good book despite its age.
Thinking in Java is also very popular around here and is available in a very up-to-date edition (on the web).

I'm not familiar with Java from the Beginning so I can't advise you on that one.
[ February 05, 2002: Message edited by: Marilyn deQueiroz ]

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Bosun Bello
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Joined: Nov 06, 2000
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Beginning Java 2 by Ivor Horton and Thinking in Java by Bruce Eckel are two very good books.

So much trouble in the world -- Bob Marley
Dave Vick
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Joined: May 10, 2001
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Learning Java although also dated a little bit was a very good book if you've already got some programmng experience. or are familiar with C syntax.
See the reviewin the bunkhouse.
hope that helps

Shivaji Marathe
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Joined: Jan 11, 2002
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I learnt java from Sun's tutorial You can download it , if your internet time is limited.
And then I read Roberts/Heller/Ernest certification guide cover to cover.
If you already have OO programming experience, then Beginning Java 2 may be a little too elementary for you at times. But it's a great place to start. It also covers topics not included in the RHE book for programmer certification.
Vicki Kech

Joined: Feb 07, 2002
Posts: 3
The local science-tech bookstore said Thinking in Java Second Edition will be arriving soon. I already own Java How to Program (4th ed) by Deitel&Deitel, which we use in class. It's okay but I'd like to try another book, either Just Java 2 or Thinking in Java. I'm a total beginner at this point. I read the reviews here online. Would getting both be a good idea or should I wait until I know more?
Vicki Kech

Joined: Feb 07, 2002
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p.s. I am a beginner when it comes to Java, but I've been programming for years (mainly RPG).
Matt O'Toole

Joined: Feb 02, 2002
Posts: 23
I've combed through most of the popular books trying to find the perfect one or two. As a technical writer, I'm really persnickety about technical books. Very few are all that well written. Many are just thrown together to try to get your money, which really irritates me.
Anyway, my favorite basic Java book is Just Java 2. The fifth edition must have just come out, because it covers the new jdk1.4 release. Many books cover the same material in a similar way, but this one does the best job by far. The author has a gift for language and explanation that others do not. He also refrains from relating everything to C++, which is useless for someone new to programming (like me).
Other than that, the best materials are the tutorials on the Sun site, and Javaranch.
For examples of how to really do stuff, check out O'Reilly's Java Cookbook. I really like this book.
I have the Dietel & Dietel books too. They're a great "textbook" and a good reference, if you want to chew through them. But while they're fairly well written, they're a tough read because they're so information-dense.
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