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Pradeep bhatt
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Jacquie ,
Can you please tell whether the book is for beginners or experts?


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Pradeep bhatt
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Does the book cover reflection? This is a topic most neglected.
Jason Menard
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I've flipped through this book back when it was available from Wrox, and aside from just the title, I got the impression that it was very much for beginners.
Pradeep bhatt
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Thanks!
Why has UML be added in the book if it for beginners ? I consider UML a bit advance. I am not sure how many will agree.
Jason Kretzer
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I would consider UML at "advanced beginner" level. In my opinion, proper OOA/OOD techniques should be taught early.

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Jason Menard
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Keep in mind that a stated goal of this book is to teach Object Oriented Programming. UML is the common language used to communicate OO concepts, so it would seem quite reasonable to get your feet wet with UML while learning OOP.
Pradeep bhatt
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I see only as Class diagrams being simple. Others are little bit complicated.
Jacquie Barker
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My book is definitely meant to be a beginning level book ... to use Java effectively requires at least an overview understanding of the object modeling process, so my coverage of this subject is also introductory.
Please take a look at the reader reviews posted on amazon.com for a better sense of my book -- many folks have said that they had read many introductory books on Java, but didn't get the "big picture" until reading mine.
Thanks for your interest!
Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:
Jacquie ,
Can you please tell whether the book is for beginners or experts?


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Pradeep bhatt
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Can I get a sample chapter of your book?
What does the Chapter 13 - A Deeper Look At Java cover?
Jason Kretzer
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Pradeep,
If you go to here website she has a pdf version of the intro as well as the source code used in the book. Here is the link, under the Downloads tag on the left.
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Michael Dunn
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This seems to be the spot to ask questions about the book.
As this is a promotion for the book, my question - would the book be beneficial to me?
I find I can work out solutions to many problems, but using a procedural approach. I look at postings here, and in newsgroups etc, and see many solutions using an OO approach, and most look like works of art.
I just can't seem to comfortably 'get' the OO style - I already have several books on OO. They all start out "this is a variable, this is a for loop" etc, so, after losing interest in them, they now sit in the corner gathering dust. Hence I'm reluctant to purchase additional books where (seemingly) 50% is devoted to the 'very' basics.
I'd be interested in buying the book if the advice is it would definitely help me come to grips with the OO style.
A quick look at Amazon indicates a working program is built throughout the book. Is this so? That's the style I prefer, as in the Jesse Liberty 'From Scratch' series.
Not sure about the UML bit though, is it important? UML too closely resembles my grades at school (decades ago!!)
Thanks for any advice.
BTW Jacquie - your signature takes you to the out-of-print Wrox version
Pradeep bhatt
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What does the Chapter 13 - A Deeper Look At Java cover?
 
Don't get me started about those stupid light bulbs.
 
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