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How Not to Fight Terror

HS Thomas
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The Net Effect - How Not to Fight Terror

"Don't let the government use terrorism as an excuse for a Surveillance Society.
Box cutters, some flight training and a lot of determination. Although it now seems clear that the hijackers of September 11 had the support of an international terror organization, the real lesson is that it is frighteningly easy for a small number of intelligent people, acting together, to do a tremendous amount of damage.
Technologists routinely underestimate the power of low-tech attacks. After all, it�s much more interesting (and lucrative) to work on the Bush administration�s national missile defense project than to think up practical strategies for protecting office buildings from fire, truck bombs and suicide pilots.
But even more disturbing than our failure to plan for the terrorist attack is the nature of our antiterrorist planning in the days that followed. Two days after the attacks, New Hampshire senator Judd Gregg called for a global ban on �uncrackable� encryption systems. Within a week, Attorney General John Ashcroft started arguing for a dramatic expansion in the FBI�s authority to wiretap telephones; his proposed law would make such taps much easier to obtain. Meanwhile, there are calls to expand the use of the FBI�s e-mail interception system, known as Carnivore, and the National Security Agency�s Echelon surveillance system (see �Will Spyware Work?�). Even a national identification card with ATM-like verification stations might be in the works."

From an MIT Technology Review which I haven't subscribed to, yet !
HS Thomas
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Makes you wonder if there have been inventions for war that was actually used for good.
Any thoughts ?
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Gustavo Torreti
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I can hopefully believe that atomic energy is being used for good puposes (some places, not all).

My question would be concerning the price humanity paid for such a thing. Was it worth it?
Is it worth it to do mean thing in the name of honor and goodness?
Don't think so.
[ November 11, 2003: Message edited by: Gustavo Torreti ]

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John Dunn
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Makes you wonder if there have been inventions for war that was actually used for good.
How about these? (forgive me if I'm wrong on any of them)
Internet - Created/Improved to aide the defense researchers in the US
Radar - greatly improved to help the RAF during WWII
===> more radar research led to the microwave oven in 1946
Sonar - greatly improved for submarines
The Jeep - for an all purpose rugged vehicle
Jet engines and airplanes in general - perfected for war
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As an aside - Wars definitely affect things by surprise, i.e.
The World Wars started a chain reaction that led to the social liberation African Americans. Once the G.I.s in Europe were given a taste genuine freedom and equality in Europe there was no turning back.
The trouble caused by the VietNam War played a huge role in the sexual revolution and woman's liberation in the US.


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Richard Hawkes
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All life (good and bad) teaches us stuff. Not all lessons are remembered though.
Maybe we should fight terrorism with custard pies. It hasn't been tried and it just might work...
Richard Hawkes
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Originally posted by HS Thomas:
Makes you wonder if there have been inventions for war that was actually used for good.
What about ICBMs and submarines? They stopped the ruskies and the yanks blowing each other up!
HS Thomas
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Maybe we should fight terrorism with custard pies.

I won't count on it.Culturalisms being what they are.I don't think you'd be very happy if someone rubbed a boiled bug in your face.
Besides : Tou tell 'em Custard Pie , You've got the crust.
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Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by Gustavo Torreti:
I can hopefully believe that atomic energy is being used for good puposes (some places, not all).
My question would be concerning the price humanity paid for such a thing. Was it worth it?

So far, the answer is yes. The atomic bomb prevented a war between the USSR and the US. It ended a brutal war that could have seen casualties 10 times higher than what occurred by using the atomic bomb. Of course, if we ever use it to destroy ourselves then the answer will change to no.


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Frank Silbermann
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Inventions of war that have been used for good:
Metallurgy. (A series of inventions for war three to five thousand years ago.)
Paved roads. (First serious roads built by Romans to solve logistics problems supplying their legions.)
Wagons. (Derived from chariots.)
Interchangeable parts for machinery. (Pioneered by Eli Whitney to supply Army with muskets.)
Computers. (Development funded by the military to generate ballistics tables.)
Meritocracy. (To solve military personnel issues.)
 
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