marriage:
1 a : the state of being married b : the mutual relation of husband and wife : WEDLOCK c : the institution whereby men and women are joined in a special kind of social and legal dependence for the purpose of founding and maintaining a family
2 : an act of marrying or the rite by which the married status is effected; especially : the wedding ceremony and attendant festivities or formalities
3 : an intimate or close union <the marriage of painting and poetry -- J. T. Shawcross>
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Originally posted by Mani Ram:
I support the idea of "gay marriage", but I'm aganist the idea of "lesbian marriage"!
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Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
So Mani - why object to lesbian marriage specifically?
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Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
ME: If you first believe that homosexuality is an innate condition and not a belief or persuasion, why would you believe that a gay couple would form for the purpose of promoting it as one?
ME: Is this a question about a child's understanding, or the acceptance of other children? Wouldn't it also apply to any family situation a society regards as unconventional? I can think of several 'acceptable' family relationships where a child doesn't have a mom and a dad as parents, including mine. Is a same sex couple different, or is it just a concept you're wrestling with?
[ November 24, 2003: Message edited by: Michael Ernest ]
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Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
Paul, are you talking about gay marriage, or gay custody and adoption rights? Seems to me these are separate issues, though there are links. Do you object to gay marriage solely on the grounds that it might support adoption and custody rights? Or are there other concerns?
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Originally posted by John Dunn:
Ironically in the last 10 years, one of the biggest proponents of gays turned out to be the biggest offenders of "their" so-called evils. (Catholic church leaders.)
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Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
ME: In a word, wrong.
Another end of marriage is the procreation and rearing of children. As we have seen, God, Who told us to "increase and multiply", did not impose on all the obligation to marry. These words, therefore, declare a purpose for the institution of marriage. Married persons who prevent conception or procure abortion are guilty of a fundamental perversion of the married state. The Archangel Raphael told Tobias that such persons have allowed the devil to take power over them: "For they who in such manner receive matrimony, as to shut out God from themselves, and from their mind, and to give themselves to their lust, as the horse and the mule which have not understanding, over them the devil hath power." Tobias VI:17.
The Archangel later counseled that Tobias should take his bride "with the fear of the Lord, moved rather for the love of children than for lust, that in the seed of Abraham thou mayest obtain a blessing in children."
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Some say the purpose of marriage is procreation. The Book of Common Prayer indicates three purposes of marriage. "The union of husband and wife in heart, body and mind is intended by God for their mutual joy: for the help and comfort given one another in prosperity and adversity; and, when it is God's will for the procreation of children...."
While same sex couples cannot have children biologically, they are quite capable of having children by adoption, in vitro fertilization, and foster care. The church allows straight couples to be married who are too old to have children, who are not physically able to have children or just plain don't want children. Procreation is not a necessary requirement for marriage. Same sex couples can pledge each other mutual joy, help and comfort in prosperity and adversity without the expectation of procreation.
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26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
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Originally posted by Tim Baker:
I'm a complete anti-catholic. ... The quicker the current pope dies the better.
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Originally posted by Tim Baker:
have you ever thought of going in to a rough gay bar and shouting "i hate all fags"?
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Originally posted by Jason Menard:
Have you ever considered taking a flight across the Atlantic and expressing your hatred of Catholics in a bar in South Boston?
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Originally posted by Tim Baker:
i never said i hated all catholics now did i.
Originally posted by Tim Baker:
i never said i hated all catholics now did i. i never even said i hate the pope, i just said the sooner he dies the better.
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