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500 greatest albums of all time

Thomas Paul
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Rolling Stone published a list of the 500 greatest albums of all time. Here is the top 25:
1. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, The Beatles
2. Pet Sounds, The Beach Boys
3. Revolver, The Beatles
4. Highway 61 Revisited, Bob Dylan
5. Rubber Soul, The Beatles
6. What's Going On, Marvin Gaye
7. Exile on Main Street, The Rolling Stones
8. London Calling, The Clash
9. Blonde on Blonde, Bob Dylan
10. The Beatles ("The White Album"), The Beatles
11. The Sun Sessions, Elvis Presley
12. Kind of Blue, Miles Davis
13. Velvet Underground and Nico, The Velvet Underground
14. Abbey Road, The Beatles
15. Are You Experienced?, The Jimi Hendrix Experience
16. Blood on the Tracks, Bob Dylan
17. Nevermind, Nirvana
18. Born to Run, Bruce Springsteen
19. Astral Weeks, Van Morrison
20. Thriller, Michael Jackson
21. The Great Twenty-Eight, Chuck Berry
22. Plastic Ono Band, John Lennon
23. Innervisions, Stevie Wonder
24. Live at the Apollo (1963), James Brown
25. Rumours, Fleetwood Mac
The full list can be seen here:
http://www.rollingstone.com/features/coverstory/featuregen.asp?pid=2164
The list seems fairly reasonable to me.


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Frank Silbermann
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I like many of the albums in the list, but dislike an equal number, so their nose for detecting good music is only 50% accurate. In any case, it seems to me that the list is heavily biased in favor of guitar groups.
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Too much Dylan IMHO, but I guess that's expected from a mag called Rolling Stone


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18. Born to Run, Bruce Springsteen

Eggshellent.
Don't recognise the rest. I might if I heard them.
Johnny Come Lately.. one of a kind.... would get my vote
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Points I find interesting -
Lennon makes the top 25 solo, McCartney does not
Dark Side of the Moon and Tapestry were big sellers for so long, yet they did not make it.
If I were to dig out my Springsteen albums, I would play The Wild, the Innocent and the E-Street Shuffle first.
I like jazz and I bought A Love Supreme, it does nothing for me.
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Thomas Paul
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Dark side of the moon and Tapestry both made the top 500.
Michael Ernest
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The token jazz album shows the slant. That aside, if neither Hotel California (#37) nor Frampton Live make the top 25, something's just wrong. Plastic Ono? Please. Ditto the slavish devotion to the Beatles. Plenty of albums have had greater impact than each and every one of those.
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Frampton Comes Alive was one of the most over rated pieces of crap ever to be forced on a brainless public.
Hotel California is on the list.
Anyone who was alive throughout the 60's knows that the Beatles had an incredible influence on music. They were the number one group in the world for the entire time that they existed.
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Turns out I am not alone! Woo!
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The token jazz album shows the slant

8. London Calling, The Clash
12. Kind of Blue, Miles Davis
The relative position of those 2 kind of make the whole list one big joke.
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Rolling Stone published a list of the 500 greatest albums of all time. Here is the top 25:
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Where are floyds and LedZeps ?
Surprised (& glad) to see Nevermind out there in the list
btw, on what basis the list created, copies of album sold or poll etc.?
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My first thought is that list screams "COMPILED BY MEN!"
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Originally posted by V�r�n Kha�n�:
[QB]Where are floyds and LedZeps ?
Surprised (& glad) to see Nevermind out there in the list
btw, on what basis the list created, copies of album sold or poll etc.?
[QB]

Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin are in the 500.
The list was created by compiling individual lists of 200 people in the music business.
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Originally posted by Sheila Wallace:
My first thought is that list screams "COMPILED BY MEN!"

Who do you think was left off the list?
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led zep, pink floyd, jethro tull, king crimson, free, jefferson airplane, can, grateful dead, joan baes, pavlov's dog, etc -
FOREVER!!
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Frampton Comes Alive was one of the most over rated pieces of crap ever to be forced on a brainless public.

Rating on opinion alone has little to do with it. The album sold well and remained charted for more than a year. It's standing the test of time, at least in rock terms, quite well: the 25th anniversary edition is selling well three years after its release. And its Amazon rating: 5 stars based on 18 reviews.
If it's a brainless public, it clearly has money to burn on overrated crap and enough intellect to praise the album in writing.
There's plenty of overrated crap on the Top 500: #131, #260. Who can say for stuff like Buena Vista Social Club? Is anyone humming a tune of theirs right now?
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Yes .... where is Pink Floyd?
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Originally posted by Sheila Wallace:
My first thought is that list screams "COMPILED BY MEN!"

Are they a soft rock group? Which label were they under?
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The Pixies made it! #226 and #315
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No Pet Shop Boys or Take That? This was a list compiled by "cool" people
Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by Guy Allard:
Yes .... where is Pink Floyd?
There are at least two Pink Floyd albums in the list.
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Well personally I'm miffed they left out Yes: Relayer and Genesis: Foxtrot. But it's Rolling Stone, so no surprise. For progressive rock, I think it's just Floyd (nominally) and one Jethro Tull album - and predictably, it's Aqualung, rather than Thick As A Brick. But hey, Sgt. Pepper isn't that far off, stylistically, so I guess I can be content with that.
[V�r�n Kha�n�]: Where are floyds and LedZeps ?
Floyd:
43. The Dark Side of the Moon
87. The Wall
209. Wish You Were Here
347. The Piper at the Gates of Dawn
Zep:
29. Led Zeppelin
66. Led Zeppelin IV
70. Physical Graffiti
75. Led Zeppelin II
149. Houses of the Holy
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[Simon Lee]:
8. London Calling, The Clash
12. Kind of Blue, Miles Davis
The relative position of those 2 kind of make the whole list one big joke.

True - except that really, Rolling Stone isn't a jazz magazine at all. I figure it's a given that when they say "greatest" they're talking about rock/pop/blues/alternative. That's what RS covers. Given that, the fact that they nonetheless included Kind of Blue speaks to the impression this album made even in the rock world.
They did get some other jazz in though:
12. Kind of Blue, Miles Davis
47. A Love Supreme, John Coltrane
94. Bitches Brew, Miles Davis
102. Giant Steps, John Coltrane
116. At Last, Etta James
246. The Shape of Jazz to Come, Ornette Coleman
356. Sketches of Spain, Miles Davis
454. Getz/Gilberto, Stan Getz and Joao Gilberto Featuring Antonio Carlos Jobim
[Rufus Bugleweed]: I like jazz and I bought A Love Supreme, it does nothing for me.
It's taken a while to grow on me, and I'm not entirely there yet. (That is, I definitely like it, but it doesn't stand out for me the way it seems to for many others.) Well, I'm betting you won't like any of Trane's subsequent albums on Impulse, and probably not the previous Impulse releases either. (They're progressively less and less accessible; ALS is somewhere in the middle.) But the Atlantic years might be more palatable - give Giant Steps a try. (Ummm, I'm assuming you've heard and enjoyed Kind of Blue, which also had Trane, right?)
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[Michael Ernest]: Plastic Ono? Please.
Yeah, I wondered about that one. Drop Plastic Ono, but keep Imagine where it is.
Ditto the slavish devotion to the Beatles.
Ack! Smite the unbeliever!
[Thomas Paul]: Anyone who was alive throughout the 60's knows that the Beatles had an incredible influence on music.
Even for those of us who were only alive for the end of that decade, I'd agree with TP here. I don't find the many Beatles listings out of place - they were well earned, IMO.
[Rufus Bugleweed]: Lennon makes the top 25 solo, McCartney does not
Outside the Beatles, McCartney didn't make it in until...
418. Band on the Run, Wings
which is only slightly ahead of
437. All Things Must Pass, George Harrison


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Varun Khanna
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Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
For convenience, here's the full list:

Great
Too much B's in the top 10.
But surprised to see Deep Purple, Scorpians missing out
or maybe I didn't checked the list properly :roll:
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Sorry, VK - I deleted it after I saw how much space it took up here; too ugly. The Rolling Stone link is good enough.
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Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
Sorry, VK - I deleted it after I saw how much space it took up here; too ugly. The Rolling Stone link is good enough

Thanks, it gave me a chance to look at the list. (As I don't have access to non-techie sites)
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can't say I agree with most of their choices (though I don't know them all, I know most of the artists and don't like their styles much).
Out of the 500 there's only about 25 I'd put in my top list, and most of those in a different place than they put them...
The top spots would all be taken by albums (and often artists) they don't mention at all...


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Originally posted by V�r�n Kha�n�:

Great
Too much B's in the top 10.

Without Bob Dylan, Beatles, Bruce Sprinsteen it won't have been much of a list.
Unless you meant B lists ?
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ME: Ditto the slavish devotion to the Beatles.
JY: Ack! Smite the unbeliever!
Hey, I'm not saying I don't own every one of them, including several LPs. Even as late as 1990, I'd say the list was probably right.
Other gripes: just how many albums did the Smiths make? Did they make as many as are on the list? If so, where can you find them?
Jane's Addiction: three albums? No Sublime?
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Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
just how many albums did the Smiths make? Did they make as many as are on the list? If so, where can you find them?
Eight "proper" albums, including a live album (Rank), a singles compilation (The World Won't Listen), and Louder than Bombs, which was originally a North American-only release of The World Won't Listen with some extra tracks. There are four post-split "best of" albums:
http://tmregistry.com/passion/smiths-db.htm
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230. A Night at the Opera, Queen

I can't believe Nirvana's nevermind is ahead of Michael Jackson's Thriller.
hmm


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Varun Khanna
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Originally posted by Andres Gonzalez:
230.
I can't believe Nirvana's nevermind is ahead of Michael Jackson's Thriller.

In terms of copies sold, Thriller is way ahead.
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Thomas Paul
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The votong was done by 273 people from the music snd entertainment industries. These included musicians (Johnny Ramone, Beck, the Edge, Fred Schneider, etc), music executives (David Geffen, Johnny Barbis, Roger Ames, etc), writers (Bill Adler, Austin Scaggs, Arthur Levy, etc), producers (Bob Rock, Matt Serletic, Graham Edwards), and others.
 
 
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