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Johannes de Jong
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of Desert man in Bushman.
Yep you read it correctly, Bushman the language of the San people. The perfect desert people.
I looked every where on the www. but I cant seem to find it.
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Jo, why your signature is in Arabic?


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Johannes de Jong
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It's Arabic for "desert man". After the San I consider them to be the perfect "desert people".
please note I had to reply on the www for the Arabic translation. I can't guarantee its accuracy
[ December 07, 2003: Message edited by: Johannes de Jong ]
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I wondered what script Bushman uses, how it will look like...
So far all I could found is:
The most notable feature of Bushman, and in fact of all the Khoisan languages, is the use of the so-called "click" consonants, produced by drawing air into the mouth and clicking the tongue. Since conventional spellings are obviously inadequate to represent these sounds, an assortment of lines, dots, and other marks are used.
http://www.worldlanguage.com/Languages/Bushman.htm

They have a sample, it's basically Latin script with lots of diacritics:
Johannes de Jong
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Yep I found that as well Map. You shoukd hear it spoken. I've heard it a few times when we lived in Namibia. Simply AMAZING
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The main problem with translation into "Bushman" is that there is no such language. It's a group of languages, and Patrick Dickens, an author of English-Ju/'Hoan Dictionary, said

that was his own objection to Bushman - the term was so imprecise. The dictionary Patrick compiled, for example, is of the language spoken by the Ju/'Hoansi tribe, and their language - Dickens pointed out - is as different from that spoken by the !Xoo people as English is from Russian!
http://www.linguistlist.org/issues/4/4-111.html

Regarding phonetics, here is an interesting info.
In Language in Africa: An Introductory Survey (Library of Anthropology)
by Edgar A. Gregersen it is said that
"Nor should it be forgotten that a kiss - all romantic misconceptions to the contrary - involves basically only a lip click (or two), symbol Θ. In some Bushman languages Θ actually occurs as a phoneme. "
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0677043805/ref=sib_dp_srch/103-0135024-1471024?v=search-inside&keywords=bushman&go.x=9&go.y=12


Listen to a Sample of Ju|'hoansi spoken by |asa Kxao
-- I bet I can hear Θ phoneme!
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I read recently of an island off India that was only recently settled by Hindus. Apparently, in the jungle, is the last surviving remnant (800 people) of the prehistoric hunter-gatherer culture that predated agriculture. The article explained that these were probably descendents of the very first emigrants from Africa tens of thousands of years ago, and that genetically the most closely resemble the Bushmen of southern Africa.
Incidently, I also read that these medium-brown Bushmen populated most of Africa until about 4,000 years ago. Then, a small group of darker skinned people in west-central Africa -- the proto-Bantu -- succeeded in domesticating a few native plants and animals, and smelted iron, which gave them a tremendous competitive advantage over other African cultures. They quickly swept through most of sub-Saharan Africa, replacing the native peoples much as Europeans later replaced the native tribes of North America. The Bushmen survived only in the southernmost portion where the Bantu's crops wouldn't grow. (Unfortunately for them, it turned out to be an ideal location for growing European crops, so most of the remaining Bushmen were later replaced by white South Africans, who, in turn, are now being replaced by Bantus, thus completing their conquest of sub-Saharan Africa.)
 
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