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Frank Silbermann
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Joined: Jun 06, 2002
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This is a short article which well epitomizes the disagreements between Europeans versus American supporters of Bush.
American / European dialog
Here are some of the European points:

What we object to most is the unilateralism and the language of the Bush administration, more so than any particular policy decision. Can't they tone it down?
you need to study our past to learn why we will no longer accept war as a method of adjudicating disputes.
Well, war is simply not an option any longer for us, like it or not. You started this mess in Iraq and now want us to bail you out; so, yes, there is a sort of "I told you so" self-righteousness over here � and why not?
You know that the animus is directed at Bush, not the American people.
...part of the problem is that Americans simply do not know much outside their shores and listen to silly Fox News and Rush Limbaugh for their information.
I'm talking about snap judgment and simple solutions to complex problems.
we would never allow a South Central or Harlem. And certainly we wouldn't unleash someone like this Ashcroft � or wage a preemptive war in Iraq.
the idea that you would spend $87 billion on fighting in Iraq while your own people don't have health care is preposterous.

Read the article for the American responses.
Jason Menard
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Joined: Nov 09, 2000
Posts: 6450
Heh. He made some valid points. Among them:
This war would be over far sooner if 350 million Europeans insisted on a modicum of behavior from Middle Eastern rogue regimes, rounded up and tried terrorists in their midst, deported islamofascists, cut off funding to killers on the West Bank, ignored Yasser Arafat � and warned the next SOB who blew up Europeans in Turkey, North Africa, or Iraq that there was a deadly reckoning to come from the continent that invented the Western military tradition. Indeed, European sophistication and experience, combined with real power, could be a great aid to the West in its effort to promote liberal and consensual governments outside its shores. But if they do not even believe in the unique legacy of their civilization, then why should we � much less their enemies?
HS Thomas
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Joined: May 15, 2002
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the idea that you would spend $87 billion on fighting in Iraq while your own people don't have health care is preposterous.
A comparative study of general hospital/health care found that the US was actually worse than the UK and the UK was worse than Spain. This was so surprising because at least the UK government here admits health care is really bad. THe US excels at specialized medecine.
Thomas Paul
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the idea that you would spend $87 billion on fighting in Iraq while your own people don't have health care is preposterous.
In other words, let the rest of the world go to hell until every American has every want, need, and desire fulfilled. Then we can go look at the suffering of the rest of the world. No wonder Europe is becoming irrelevant.


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HS Thomas
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No wonder Europe is becoming irrelevant.
Europe is not becoming irrelevant. It's member states are.
 
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