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Yosi Hendarsjah
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Which western countries do you think have the friendliest attitude towards muslims who live there? I also want to hear experiences from all of you muslim ranchers who live in western countries.
stara szkapa
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Canada
Adrian Yan
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US actually. I live in NYC, I had several good muslim friends, and they never had any problems with anything. Maybe except constant "random security check at airport".
John Dunn
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I live in NYC, I had several good muslim friends, and they never had any problems with anything.
And would Americans feel so safe in another country where a band of renegade Americans completed destroyed something of the same level of the WTC??
There's very little shortage of condemnation of the US in forum. Not enough praise when it is due.


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Tim Baker
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Some places in the UK are very muslim friendly. Places like Leicester and Birmingham have very large 'indian' populations, a lot of which are muslims. Anywhere further north of there probably isn't too friendly. London is probably OK, there are lots of non-white pepople in london. The south west probably isn't great, there are very few non-white people down here.


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Vinod John
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Originally posted by Tim Baker:
Some places in the UK are very muslim friendly ... Anywhere further north of there probably isn't too friendly.

Is it because of the attitude of majority population (whites) or the muslim population ?.
An article I read in BBC said there is a big "difference" between a Indian muslim and other muslims in UK, both economically and culturally. Indian muslim are well educated, and blend better into the society than their pakistani or bengaladeshi counterparts. But that article never explained why ? ... do you have any explaination ?
Steven Broadbent
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Wrong, there is a large muslim population in South Shields which is in the far north of england, and has been for many years, Slough has a very large indian/muslim population also. Likewise many parts of London.


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Adrian Yan
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Originally posted by John Dunn:
I live in NYC, I had several good muslim friends, and they never had any problems with anything.
And would Americans feel so safe in another country where a band of renegade Americans completed destroyed something of the same level of the WTC??
There's very little shortage of condemnation of the US in forum. Not enough praise when it is due.

John, I'm not quite sure what you mean by your post. Are you praising NYC?
Tim Baker
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Originally posted by Vinod John:

Is it because of the attitude of majority population (whites) or the muslim population ?.

The (white) people in these places, where there is a very large ethnic population, generally get on very well. I'm not sure on the social reasons for this, it just seems to be the way it is.
Originally posted by Vinod John:

An article I read in BBC said there is a big "difference" between a Indian muslim and other muslims in UK, both economically and culturally. Indian muslim are well educated, and blend better into the society than their pakistani or bengaladeshi counterparts. But that article never explained why ? ... do you have any explaination ?

Well I don't really know anything about inter-religion relationships between the different ethnic groups, but having lived in Leicester for 5 years, I never heard about any tension or problems in this way. It might be a socail/class type situation where they don't socialise with each other, but I wouldn't know about it.
Originally posted by Steven Broadbent:
Wrong, there is a large muslim population in South Shields which is in the far north of england, and has been for many years, Slough has a very large indian/muslim population also. Likewise many parts of London.

There are places I'm sure that are perfectly fine up north, but the north is where most of the places with race problems are too.
HS Thomas
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Originally posted by Vinod John:

Is it because of the attitude of majority population (whites) or the muslim population ?.
An article I read in BBC said there is a big "difference" between a Indian muslim and other muslims in UK, both economically and culturally. Indian muslim are well educated, and blend better into the society than their pakistani or bengaladeshi counterparts. But that article never explained why ? ... do you have any explaination ?

In a city as diverse as London people tend to read up on the background of ethnic groups. Salman Rushdie has a strong following amongst white collared workers- or rather his books have. In Universities it's a different story , a microcosm of what is happening on the global scene. I guess there they would have to interact with Muslims from regional areas most who were brought up in a strong Muslim household. THat's something Salman Rushdie cannot be accused of. But Midnights children is particularly good , IMHO. Satanic Verses will probably be what he'll be remembered for - for that he had to go into hiding after a Fatwa was declared on hs life issued by the Ayatollah Khomeini on February 14, 1989.

I'd hazard a guess that most non-Indian Muslims don't identify with his writings.
Salman Rushdie , BP Ammoco And Iran
He has since written Step Across this Line about his experiences during the Fatwa.
TheMoor's Last Sigh looks like a good read. Indeed , it may surpass Midnight's Children and this may be the book he'll be remembered for.
[ December 21, 2003: Message edited by: HS Thomas ]
 
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