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Mars... how cool!

Joe Pluta
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Just looking at the pictures... I'm awed.
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Mark Fletcher
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Have you seen the high res colour pics here The pics NASA are sending back are the highest resolution yet.
Such a barren, lifeless world.


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Richard Hawkes
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They look pretty cool. I'm having a horizon one for my desktop
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HS Thomas
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Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
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Holiday pics, Jim ?
Casts a long shadow.
Jeroen Wenting
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Originally posted by HS Thomas:

Holiday pics, Jim ?
Casts a long shadow.

And in the wrong direction too


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HS Thomas
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Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:

And in the wrong direction too

No I think it's in the right direction. The rock casts it's own shadow too which gives the impression that the shadow is in the wrong direction.
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Ashok Mash
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Originally posted by Mark Fletcher:
Have you seen the high res colour pics here The pics NASA are sending back are the highest resolution yet.
Such a barren, lifeless world.

Comment from Slashdot:
"They should have landed that thing near a city or a river or something."


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HS Thomas
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Bush to Offer Initiative to Explore Space
Perhaps Sadam hid the WMDs on the moon or the Red Planet ?
Ashok Mash
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Is India's declaration of 2007 test date of AVATAR (Aerobic Vehicle for Hypersonic Aerospace Transportation), a hypersonic space plane, just another, similar, pre-election stunt? I sincerely hope it's not.
Between, this Mars expedition made me think, after all these technological advances in last decade or so, our technology is still so immature that we can barely make it to Mars & Moon (and back), and our the sci-fi fantasies is still very much what they are – mere fantasy.
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Don't take this the wrong way but I wonder if they thought of the acronym AVATAR first and then looked for words that would mean something in the context...
Actually I think the same every time I see a cute acronym like that:
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Jim Yingst
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Comment from Slashdot:
"They should have landed that thing near a city or a river or something."


I wonder if they thought of the acronym AVATAR first and then looked for words that would mean something in the context...

Well it seems they actually spelled out AVHAT. My guess is that they chose "Aerobic Vehicle for Hypersonic Aerospace Transportation" first, and then saw that it was sorta like "avatar", so used that as the nickname (without bothering to distort the original name to more closely match the "acronym"). But it could have happened either way. Whenever naming a project, it's worthwhile to consider how it will be abbreviated.
Ashok Mash
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Originally posted by Tony Alicea:
Don't take this the wrong way but I wonder if they thought of the acronym AVATAR first and then looked for words that would mean something in the context...

Actually, I am not surprised with 'AVATAR'. Its Sanskrit word, most commonly used to mention the ten different well, 'Avatar's of Vishnu, as depicted in the Indian (Hindu if you are being pedantic) mythology.
Yeah, I agree, looks like they named the thing to match the acronym.
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It's entered the English lexicon as well, both in its original meaning and in a modified meaning used by the VR community.
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The Marvin image currently appears to have been slashdotted for now. (anyone got a good alternate?) Meanwhile here's some other fun:
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Back in the real world, it's kind of a pity they have to look for broad, flat surfaces to land on, preventing a close-up tour of some of the more interesting features of the Martian landscape. Though as I recall that animation has an exaggerated vertical scale; can't find info on that at the moment. So ultimately, most of Mars is still pretty darn flat. Oh well. Still, it's great to see the recent images from Spirit.
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Would the Spirit have landed on the Beagle 2 ?
Some boffin my neighbour knows worked on the Beagle Project for his Phd.
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Jeroen Wenting
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Originally posted by Ashok Mash:
Between, this Mars expedition made me think, after all these technological advances in last decade or so, our technology is still so immature that we can barely make it to Mars & Moon (and back), and our the sci-fi fantasies is still very much what they are – mere fantasy.

In fact space tech now is at a level below that of the late 1970s.
At this time we could not get to the moon and back again with a manned mission, noone has the rockets or even the tooling to make the rockets!
The space shuttle, which is powered by 3 computers with the processing equivalent of a ZX Spectrum each, could not be designed today.
Its successors were all killed for political reasons (making money free to spend it in some other senator's district in order to win him or her over for your plans).
Sad fact of life: in a democracy without a declared and active enemy no large scale project survives that does not yield results which can be used to win votes, therefore no project survives without tangible results which yield good TV within 4 years of being first announced.
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we should send more ships there


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Ashok Mash
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Originally posted by HS Thomas:
Would the Spirit have landed on the Beagle 2 ?

I am sure Nasa has a perfectly valid reason for planning this landing just a week after Beagle’s landing, but I sure can see enough room for an out-of-this-world (quite literally) conspiracy theory here!
Bela Bardak
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Seems to me that Beagle was supposed to arrive at Mars in 2000 but had an accident and had to use a low-fuel approach which took it 3 year longer. Or was that another spacecraft?
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they should have taken some trees or something to plant. does look a bit lifeless
Mark Fletcher
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Originally posted by Bela Bardak:
Seems to me that Beagle was supposed to arrive at Mars in 2000 but had an accident and had to use a low-fuel approach which took it 3 year longer. Or was that another spacecraft?

That was the Japanese Nozomi probe. Beagle 2 was piggy backed on the ESA's Mars Express probe, which is in orbit now.
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I guess the lander Beagle was named after Charles Darwin's HMS Beagle.
Or did the HRH have a hand in it.
Mark Fletcher
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Beagle 2 was named after HMS Beagle, the ship that Charles Darwin sailed on whilst researching material for "The Origin of Species".
If HRH was involved surely it would be called "Corgi".
In light of Beagle 2's demise, perhaps a more fitting name would be "Roadkill" or "Splat"?
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I had just assumed that someone in Mission Control (or whatever the British equivalent is) wanted to be able to say "the Beagle has landed!"
HS Thomas
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Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
wanted to be able to say "the Beagle has landed!"

HS Thomas
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The point of these missions are to look for signs of a previous life on the Red Planet. And finding bacteria that lived millions of years ago proves that there was ?
And that mankind could live underneed similar conditions as millions of years ago.
It's almost noon at your desk at NASA headquarters in Washington, D.C. You're thinking a little about the report on your desk and a lot about lunch. The phone rings. It's the big boss�the agency administrator.
"Drop everything," the commanding voice says. "I have an urgent mission for you."
"Of course!" you answer, just a little nervously. "What do you need?"
"Information. XYZ just published an article on Mars. It says that two-thirds of all Mars missions (both ours and the Russians') have failed. So now every politician and reporter in Washington is calling me to ask why one of our closest planetary neighbors is still such a mystery."
 
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