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del drew
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Joined: Feb 12, 2005
Posts: 2
Help,
Occasionally when I load pages containing Java elements my screen goes black. Sometimes everything comes back, sometimes it just freezes. An example is the java.com main page. It seems like the comp is loading something when it happens. I'm have a fairly old machine, 500mhz, 256mb....win 98se. I tend to use firefox, although the problem happens in IE and Netscape also. I know nothing about Java and would appreciate any help. I think that I have Java 5.00.3810. At least that is what the jview command reveals (whatever that means).
Thanks,
Drew
Svend Rost
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Joined: Oct 23, 2002
Posts: 904
Hi Del,

Many things can cause that problem.

Try to take a look at this page: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml

The page will test if you have the JRE installed. JRE is an "environment" that has to be installed in order to view/use "Java elements" ect. If you can't see the Applet
then follow the instructions at the buttom of the page.

Please report back, if the above doesn't fix your problem.

/Svend
del drew
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Joined: Feb 12, 2005
Posts: 2
Thanks for the response!
I'm running JRE 1.5.0 and the applet displayed as described.
If it helps I'll try to further descibe what happens.
When I click on some links, like the one you gave me, the monitor blanks out entirely, there is a moment of silence from the comp, then the hard drive runs, and (usually) the page loads up. It's not a major problem, but something I've always wondered about.
I've noticed that there seem to be multiple copies of JRE on this comp. I'll try to remove these. Then I'll re-install it and see what happens. Think that would help?
Drew
Svend Rost
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Joined: Oct 23, 2002
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It's a while since I last used win98, so you might have to be carefull with the following

In winXP/win2000 you can access the "Task bar" by pressing "Crtl+Alt+Delete" (what might happen is that your computer will restart.. which is why you have to be carefull), try to do that and take a look at what processes/applications are running. What might be the problem is that some process is "locking" your system because it's waiting for I/O input (for example a program that tries to access the internet, but arn't allowed to do so) and thereby making your computer to freze.

Have you some kind of spyware installed ? if so, they might be the reason that you have problems.

I acutualy have the same problem, but only with IE and not Mozilla/Netscape. If everything fails, you can always try to reinstall IE.

- Svend
David Harkness
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Joined: Aug 07, 2003
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I'm running WinXP and Mozilla 1.7.3 (ouch, I need to upgrade this box) and when I clicked on that link that loads an applet, the browser locks up and the disk churns for about 1 second, maybe 2. This is also noticable when loading other plugins, especially Acrobat Reader with loads like 50,000 plugins of its own.

In any case, I think this is what's happening. It's possible that multiple Java plugins are making it fail, but then I'd expect it to always fail. Cleaning up the system -- especially a Win98 box -- is a good idea. When I ran Win98, I made a habit of whiping and reinstalling at least once a year. Of course, I used to reconfigure my boxes pretty regularly, installing utilities and other crap. I have a bit more restraint now.
 
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