The Sun Microsystems certification team is creating a NEW industry leading Sun Certified Associate exam. Be part of the team setting the industry standards by working on the NEW Sun Certified Associate for the Java 2 Platform, Version 1.0.
Be a part of the industry leading Java Associate Certification and set the skill standards for the Sun Certified Associate for J2SE, Version 1.0 Development!
If you are a beginner or an expert who knows exactly what you'd be looking for when hiring an entry level programmer into your team, this is your opportunity to get involved in the creation of the upcoming industry leading certification exam.
We are looking for participants for the Blueprint Survey phase.
This step is to determine the right mix of test sections and testing objectives via our web-based Blueprint Survey tool. This tool specifies the testing objectives and how many questions should be produced for each testing objective according to importance, frequency and difficulty. From here, the certification weightings are calculated. This weighting aligns industry expectations with the developer skills to be validated.
*SCJA Survey Participants*: Needed 40-60 Candidates *When*: March 14-18, 2005 *Duration:* 40-50 minutes *Where*: Internet web survey. *WHAT*: Provide input through check boxes and comments on-line.
All survey participants will receive a free voucher to take the Beta exam for this new certification. The Beta examination will be available May 2005 at all worldwide Prometric testing centers and will take approximately 4 hours to complete. Vouchers will be sent out via email in early May.
If you PASS the Beta exam, you will receive your certificate, enamel lapel pin, wallet identification card and the Certified Java Technology Professional logo.
*How to Participate*: If you are interested in participating in the SCJA blueprint survey, please send an e-mail with the subject line "Java Associate BP Participant", your name, country, company and email to: *Evelyn Cartagena-Meyer by March 11, 2005*. firstname.lastname@example.org
Evelyn Cartagena-Meyer Java Certification Program Manager Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Java Certification Program Manager
I'd like a little clarification of the level of expertise/knowledge being tested here. How would it compare to SCJP? Would it encompass J2ME/SE/EE? How about other emerging Java-based technologies such as SWT/JFace?
As far as testing beginning programmers, isn't SCJP sufficient? If not, what's lacking that this Associate certification would provide? I just have the feeling that this ground is already sufficiently covered, so I don't really see a need for this cert.
Give a man a fish, he'll eat for one day. Teach a man to fish, he'll drink all your beer.
Cheers, Jeff (SCJP 1.4, SCJD in progress, if you can call that progress...)
It's a new exam. I imagine Evelyn will be posting the objectives shortly. I believe it will actually cover a wider area than SCJP, in the sense that it will expect some very basic knowledge of some J2EE technologies (very basic), and some UML. But it will be much less in-depth than SCJP is.
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Joined: Jul 30, 2003
Like a 2-year Associates degree relates to a 4-year bachelor's degree? I haven't heard of a Java Associates Exam before. I thought you had to start with the SCJP exam!
That's because this one's brand new and hasn't been developed yet!
I have trouble seeing the point of this new exam. If the SCJP, SCWCD, SCJD, etc., won't get you an interview without paid commercial Java programming experience, what will an easier entry-level exam accomplish?
IMHO, Sun needs to find out what sort of questions will convince employers that this is a candidate worth hiring without paid Java experience.
One JavaRancher who does hire Java programmers said: "If I ever have a small project which is done by one person (as opposed to the teams I usually run), lasts two weeks (not months), doesn't integrate to legacy systems and has no future requiring maintenance, maybe I'll hire someone with a good SCJD score."
Same here. What's the target audience of the program, and what's the exam objectives? If it's easier/less complete than SCJP it'll become just like MCSE, completely useless except for resume stuffers. If it's equivalent to SCJP, it's useless because there's already SCJP covering the same ground.
So it'll have to be something non-technical but not competing with SCEA to make sense in the current system of Sun certifications. Maybe an equivalent to SCEA outside J2EE would fit in but I'd hardly class that as an entry level cert.
I would image this would cover stuff outside Java language as well - OS basics, Web technologies and protocols, XML, Configuration management, team skills etc - basically stuff you ask entry level candidates when you interview them.
Joined: Oct 12, 2000
Impossible. What OS? What config management system? What XXXXX? This isn't MCSE we're talking about...
Evelyn intentionally does not respond to questions on this board; not because she does not read the comments here but because she does not want to be drawn into these discussions.
Ko Ko Naing
Joined: Jun 08, 2002
Originally posted by Anselm Paulinus: Evelyn intentionally does not respond to questions on this board; not because she does not read the comments here but because she does not want to be drawn into these discussions.
I second Anselm's comment... We shouldn't draw this thread into that debate about whether SCJA is useful or not...
I asked about the resources for the SCJA Beta exam... If there is someone who can start with an opinion about the resources, it might be very good for those, who are going for this cert...
So let's go on with optimistic opinion on SCJA from now on...
Joined: Nov 07, 2003
Let's start on studying SCJA after I took IBM 399.
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