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Homer Phillips
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These are attractive women.

It is interesting that this movie is the source of great controversy. The world gets smaller and smaller. Where is Bollywood?
Sadanand Murthy
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Originally posted by Homer Phillips:

Where is Bollywood?


In Mumbai which is the hub of hindi movie industry in India. When Mumbai was called Bombay, this film industry was called Bollywood. Now, that the city is called Mumbai, I think Bollywood should be renamed to Mollywood.

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Paul McKenna
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Umm... lets see there are a couple of issues here.

1. I, personally, have no problem viewing images of nude/scantily clad women and cant really figure out what the big deal is in a movie about homosexuality. However, having been raised in the conservative southern part of India, I can understand but not relate to the feelings of outrage. You have to remember that India is still a very very conservative country when compared to western standards and its nothing short of suicide for any movie director to attempt a movie about homosexuality. I remember reading about riots in movie theaters sometime in the 60s because a Tamil movie had a scene where a Hindu widow wears the dot on her forehead signifying her intent to remarry. Ofcourse Indian movie goers have become more accomodating when compared to the 60s, infact so accomodating that some mainstream movies openly peddle soft porn today.

2. For a mainstream newspaper to publish raunchy pictures of women is, IMO, irresponsible. Sure, as a single guy I welcome it and would probably purchase such a newspaper but I can understand the reasons why older/married people object to them. When a person subscribes to a newspaper he or she has some preset notions about what is and what is not ethical for a newspaper to publish. In recent times, the success of Times of India, aka Trash of India, with its semi-nude model photos on the front page have made many other newspapers reconsider their content as well. A parent may have no choice in blocking such content from entering their households simply because almost all newspapers are tending towards become more tabloid oriented. A few good exceptions remain but thats only a few.


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R K Singh
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Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
1. I, personally, have no problem viewing images of nude/scantily clad women.


Believe me, everyone supports you for this thought


"Thanks to Indian media who has over the period of time swiped out intellectual taste from mass Indian population." - Chetan Parekh
Ashok Mash
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Originally posted by Sadanand Murthy:
..I think Bollywood should be renamed to Mollywood.


Sorry, that name is taken - it stands for Malayalam movie industry!


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Pradeep bhatt
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Every Indian newspaper is trying to catch up with TOI. Even The Hindu and Deccan Herald. I will stop buying news paper from next month. I will save 100 Rs.




I dont watch any BollyWood movies only Hollywood. All Bollywood actors have links with underworld and are enemies of India.



Any good English movie to watch? Thanks
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Arjun Shastry
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When a person subscribes to a newspaper he or she has some preset notions about what is and what is not ethical for a newspaper to publish.
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People anywhere expect real world to be reflected in newspapers.TOI is becoming problem not bcos of its nude models and journalists but it hides common man's problems and gives preferences to corporate guys and rich and famous.
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The Hindu has them too..
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Yes,but its many times better than any newspaper from India.

Now this is about some history.Can't say about future.
"In 1968, the American Newspaper Publishers' Association chose The Hindu for its World Press Achievement Award. The citation reads in part: "Throughout nearly a century of its publication The Hindu has exerted wide influence not only in Madras but throughout India. Conservative in both tone and appearance, it has wide appeal to the English-speaking segment of the population and wide readership among government officials and business leaders... The Hindu has provided its readers a broad and balanced news coverage, enterprising reporting and a sober and thoughtful comment... [It] has provided its country a model of journalistic excellence... [It] has fought for a greater measure of humanity for India and its people... [and] has not confined itself to a narrow chauvinism. Its Correspondents stationed in the major capitals of the world furnish The Hindu world-wide news coverage... For its championing of reason over emotion, for its dedication to principle even in the face of criticism and popular disapproval, for its confidence in the future, it has earned the respect of its community, its country, and the world."

The Times, London choose it as one of the world's ten best newspapers in 1965. Discussing each of its choices in separate articles, The Times wrote:
"The Hindu takes the general seriousness to lengths of severity... The Hindu which is published in Madras, is the only newspaper which in spite of being published only in a provincial capital is regularly and attentively read in Delhi. It is read not only as a distant and authoritative voice on national affairs but as an expression of the most liberal - and least provincial - southern attitudes... Its Delhi Bureau gives it outstanding political and economic dispatches and it carries regular and frequent reports from all state capitals, so giving more news from states, other than its own, than most newspapers in India... It might fairly be described as a national voice with a southern accent. The Hindu can claim to be the most respected paper in India."

Some of the major Indian scandals invloving foreign trade and defence have been exposed by Hindu.

History of The Hindu(1878)
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Paul McKenna
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I am not so sure I trust "The Hindu" either. It was a conservative beacon about 10 years ago and today it has become overtly liberal in its editorial content. I trust the Indian Express. No other newspaper in India has come even close to acheiving the ground breaking reporting of Indian Express in recent times. During the emergency period of Indira Gandhi only one newspaper dared to challenge her and that was Indian Express. The editor of Indian Express was dragged to jail because he dared to question the authoritarian instincts of Indira Gandhi.

During the recent Iraq war, almost all Indian national newspapers were carrying liberal voices in their editorial pages while Indian Express provided the conservative perspective as well. In short, if you want fair and balanced read Indian Express.
Arjun Shastry
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During the emergency period of Indira Gandhi only one newspaper dared to challenge her and that was Indian Express. The editor of Indian Express was dragged to jail because he dared to question the authoritarian instincts of Indira Gandhi
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hmm...true.Hope you are aware the background.Goenka family(Indian Express owners) was always been a supporter of Janata Party at that time.In fact Indian Express was mainly focussed on anti-Indira!(and later anti-Rajiv) movement.Jayaprakash Narayan,Janata Leader frequently used to stay on top floor in Express Towers in Mumbai during that period.Editorial page was kept empty on next day ,Indi(r!!)a declared emmergency.Invesigative journalism,IE is the king.But its news don't have the depth and analysis.If you precisly want to know,how many times minister xyz drinks a beer in a week,ask IE.
Mohanlal Karamchand
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Originally posted by R K Singh:


Believe me, everyone supports you for this thought


Hooray for McKenna.
Pradeep bhatt
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For a mainstream newspaper to publish raunchy pictures of women is, IMO, irresponsible. Sure, as a single guy I welcome it and would probably purchase such a newspaper but I can understand the reasons why older/married people object to them.


They will buy 2 copies.


The latest news - the sales of TOI has come down a bit.
R K Singh
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Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:
I dont watch any BollyWood movies only Hollywood. All Bollywood actors have links with underworld and are enemies of India.


you poor fellow .. for how long you have not seen any Bollywood movie ..

AW when it comes to taste and entertainment, I am open to all kinds and types.

Hope you have not missed some good films by Ramu ...
Pradeep bhatt
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Originally posted by R K Singh:


you poor fellow .. for how long you have not seen any Bollywood movie ..

AW when it comes to taste and entertainment, I am open to all kinds and types.

Hope you have not missed some good films by Ramu ...



I hate all bollywood people A-Z.


They should all be hanged to death.


Ravish
Any good English movies to watch?
R K Singh
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Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:

I hate all bollywood people A-Z.


And I simply love Bollywood.

AW recent English movie I saw was Harry Potter and it was just OK... it was not upto the part-1/2... frankly it was not worth Rs.90
 
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