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Ashok Mash
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Oh yeah, this is real!

India defeat USA



Hint :: ( No need to panic yet, its only a Hokey match )
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Michael Ernest
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I can't get the link to resolve. What was it, a men's field hockey match?


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Mohanlal Karamchand
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NEW DELHI, June 20. � Strikers Deepak Thakur and Baljit Singh Dhillon scored a brace each as the Indian hockey team blanked USA 7-0 in the first of their two friendly matches at Moorpark College, California.
The Indians, for whom the matches would be the last phase of their Olympic preparations in the country, did not have to push hard in the match yesterday. �We could have scored a few more goals, but we did not push hard since it was a friendly match,� coach Mr Rajinder Singh said after the match.
The visitors walloped their opposition with four first half goals and added three more to the tally after the break. Five of them were field goals while the other two came through penalty corners, Thakur and Dhillon scored four of the five field goals while Gagan Ajit Singh sounded the board off a rebound for the fifth one. The two penalty corners were converted by Kanwalpreet Singh and Dilip Tirkey. �I am quite happy with the performance of the team. We tried various combinations and did plenty of rolling substitutions. And that worked well,� Mr Singh said. � PTI
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There should be a re-match on ice.
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This required some research. Here's a story about the game from another website. It seems that what Ashok is referring to is a field hockey match, not ice hockey, which is the general assumption in North America when you mention simply "hockey".

Field hockey is very far from being a major sport in the US, probably ranking somewhere in popularity around a sport such as kickball. According to their site, the United States Field Hockey Association has 15,000 members. When I was in highschool, our school did have a field hockey team, however it was only for females.
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I don't actually know if ME was joking or not, but it was field hockey. I didn't know field hockey was an olympic sport, or especially that it was a men's sport; I've never heard of a men's field hockey team before.

From the U.S. Field Hockey team web site (http://www.usfieldhockey.com/news/2004/mnt_india_friendly.htm):


USA Field Hockey Men's National Team to Host Olympic-Bound India

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. � The USA Field Hockey men's national team will get a taste of Olympic competition when the USA hosts Olympic-bound India in a two-game series, June 19-20 at Moorpark, Calif.

Game times are scheduled for 5 P.M. on Saturday and 2:30 P.M. on Sunday at Moorpark College.

Although the USA men did not qualify for the Olympic Games, the young USA team will get a glimpse of the Athens competition from an India team with a long history of Olympic success. India's Olympic tradition includes a record 8 Olympic gold medals and a streak of 30 straight Olympic victories from 1928-1960. The team placed 7th at the 2000 Olympic Games and earned its spot in Athens by virtue of a 4th place finish at the Olympic Qualifying Tournament held earlier this year.

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When I was in Highschool there was a guy on one of the other school Teams, other schools hated it becuase he was faster and stronger then the girls. They had to let him play wince there was no guy team. He got to wear shorts and not those funky skirts.. lol

This sport will never take off in the US with men since we consider it a female sport.

Lets see India take us on at kick-the-can!

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Ashok Mash
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Originally posted by Ernest Friedman-Hill:
I don't actually know if ME was joking or not, but it was field hockey.


Same here. I knew Ice hockey is a big thing in the USA, but didn't know field hockey (thats just hockey for us) is that unpopular. As a matter of fact, its India's national sport (yeah, its not Cricket) and we have been pretty good at it. As you can see here (pdf) in the International Hockey Federations World rankings for 2003, India is sixth best team, behind Germany, Netherlands, Australia, Korea and Pakistan. USA is 24th according to the list, but after Jason's explanations, its understandable.

India have been doing really bad in International Hockey for a good while now, and its really a shame considering they are Eight-time Olympic champions and have won the World Cup only once, in 1975 at Kuala Lumpur. India came 3rd in the first World Cup, 2nd in the second World Cup and 1st in the third World Cup.
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Didn't the U.S. women's field hockey team do really well a few years back? I'm wondering if it's better than the U.S. men's team....
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It was meant as an informed dig. Guessing right just spoils my fun.
Helen Thomas
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Another sport Indians are good at is Kabbaddi - there's an article in the paper on how it's catching on with the Canadian police and is much more difficult than it looks. They used to show some competitions on Saturday's World Sports years ago so I have been curious about it since.

I believe when the Maharajah's ruled, the sport was played with long knives/swords ? Probably derived from a martial art.

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Hockey ? what's that ?
And since when was cheerleading a sport ?
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John Smith
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When I saw the subject, I feared the worst -- the USA was defeated by India in cricket. That would have been a scandal of a century, and the riots on the American streets would be a certainty.
Ashok Mash
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Well, Kabaddi is strangely popular here too, after those company briefings, and after emptying crates of free beer, we usually play boys vs girls Kabaddi in the Kitchen area, but neither team wins or loses, or they will be too merry to care anyway!
Arjun Shastry
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In my school Kabaddi was considered to rowdy game.In fact only back benchers used to play that.But if you play daily,no need to do any excercise.



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Helen Thomas
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Right ! I can see why Canadian police are taking to this sport.
In London and LA this sport would be called "an arrest".
Richard Hawkes
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Originally posted by Eric Pascarello:
This sport will never take off in the US with men since we consider it a female sport.

Probably why baseball isn't so popular in the UK. All the blokes immediately think of rounders, another "girls" game. A shame actually since that leaves us with [yawn] cricket.
Richard Hawkes
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Originally posted by Ashok Mash:
we usually play boys vs girls Kabaddi in the Kitchen area, but neither team wins or loses, or they will be too merry to care anyway!

You should try bedroom kabaddi ...
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When I saw the subject, I feared the worst -- the USA was defeated by India in cricket. That would have been a scandal of a century, and the riots on the American streets would be a certainty.

Perish the thought! Flags would have to be flown at half mast for several weeks I imagine.


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Jeroen Wenting
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I wonder how the Americans would fare at Polo?

After all, it's a Royal Sport and the Americans never had much of a royalty


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John Smith
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After all, it's a Royal Sport and the Americans never had much of a royalty

We are rich, we rule the world, we are arrogant, and we like to keep distance. How is this not royal? Splashing water in the pool is for the minions, to keep them cool and prevent the uprisings.
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We seem to hold our own at most sports of the rich, including sailing and horse racing.
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India blank USA 7-0 in the 2nd mathc too but I feel they should have scored 20 -0.


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Ashok Mash
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Not hijacking my own thread, but here another interesting story.

Results of air exercise with India a "wake-up call" for US air force: general

Well, it sounds like a F22 sale-pitch if you ask me, as far as I know, India's flying coffins and a handful of newer aircrafts couldn�t possibly cause even the slightest bother to USA's highly advanced air power!
Mohanlal Karamchand
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Originally posted by Eugene Kononov:
Splashing water in the pool is for the minions, to keep them cool and prevent the uprisings.

Polo is played on horseback. There is hardly any water involved. Neither player nor pony is allowed to make water during play.
John Smith
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MK: Polo is played on horseback. There is hardly any water involved. Neither player nor pony is allowed to make water during play.

Ah, right, I thought we were talking about the water polo.
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Originally posted by Ashok Mash:
Not hijacking my own thread, but here another interesting story.

Results of air exercise with India a "wake-up call" for US air force: general

Well, it sounds like a F22 sale-pitch if you ask me, as far as I know, India's flying coffins and a handful of newer aircrafts couldn�t possibly cause even the slightest bother to USA's highly advanced air power!


I agree. It sounds like a maneuver to justify the F-22.

Although the US fighters flew with certain restrictions that handicapped their effectiveness...

...

He said the results of the exercise showed the need for the F/A-22 Raptor and the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF).


This isn't abnormal. I took part in an exercise prior to the US action in Bosnia whose purpose was apparently to determine which aircraft would best be suited for the mission. This was another case where restrictions were placed on performace of certain aircraft. The aircraft that seemed to perform best given the restrictions was not the aircraft that ended up being used, instead giving the nod to the newest equipment loaded up with the newest toys (the LANTIRN targetting/navigation system), even though they didn't necessarily perform as well from where we were standing. From the grunt's perspective, it looked like they were more interested in battle testing the newest equipment. Keep in mind that this was merely our perception, and the reality as seen from the decision makers' points of view could have been quite different.
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