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umut uzumcu
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Hi, Im new in java world and in this site as well. Can anyone give me some information about the Devleoper and the programmer. What are ate differences between them? Im studing Java Developer(SCJD) so what s the plus sides of it?
Svend Rost
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Hi,

and welcome to the ranch.

Sun Certified Java Developer: http://www.sun.com/training/certification/java/scjd.xml
Sun Certified Java Programmer: http://www.sun.com/training/certification/java/scjp.xml

The programmer certification is the foundation for the more advanced
certifications. Its main focus is the syntax and rules (JLS) connected
with the Java languages. In the Developer certification you need to
solve a problem (develop a small system) using J2SE.

You say your studying for the SCJD certification - what do you think the
differences is between the two certifications?

I'll check back later


edit:

Another usefull Link: http://www.javacamp.org/scjd/
The site contains information about the SJCP and the SCJD.

Being a SCJP, you prove your knowledge of the core language. Being a SCJD, you prove that you can apply the core language to solve a coding problem. With a SCJD certification, you are more valuable in the job market and have earned a good opportunity for your professional advancement like salary increase, job role modifications or promotions because your coding skill has been polished and approved by the language inventor--SUN. And you have absolutely gained more experience to solve a tougher coding problem.

I agree with the above.
[ January 10, 2007: Message edited by: Svend Rost ]
umut uzumcu
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Svend Rost thank you for usefull information and links ,i will check them.
Do you study Java? Im new in Java, it seems little complicated, is it?
Svend Rost
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Originally posted by umut uzumcu:
Do you study Java? Im new in Java, it seems little complicated, is it?


I have not taken the certifications, but I am familia with them and will
most likely take them in 2007.

I think the SCJD certification has the most value as it deals with a real
problem you need to solve.. when I say value I mean in the "job sence" -
afterall learning Java through the SCJP certification will be very
valuable for yourself, but if you - like me - have several years of Java
expirience that "extra" paper won't matter that much (my personal oppinion,
others disagree).

Yes, the certifications are a challenge and they do take "blood, sweat and
tears" but I think the average programmer will increase his or her skills
from the process of taking the certifications.
umut uzumcu
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SCJP certification will be very
valuable for yourself, but if you - like me - have several years of Java
expirience that "extra" paper won't matter that much (my personal oppinion,
others disagree).


Yes you sre right that its just a paper the most important thing is experience, I have BS in IT with honours but noone cares everbody just asking experience which i dont have.

How did you get experience, without experience nobody wanna give job.
Guru dhaasan
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Joined: Sep 13, 2006
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In terms of choronology, SCJD comes first then SCJP


Thanks, Shiv
SCJP, OCE - JSP & Servlets Developer
Svend Rost
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Originally posted by Gurudhaasan:
In terms of choronology, SCJD comes first then SCJP

You can not take the Developer certification before you have the Programmer certification; SCJP comes first, then SCJD.
 
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