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Max Habibi
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4034383.stm


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That's a great story, Max. Thanks. Though it occurs to me that it's a lucky thing that sharks haven't figured out the value of teamwork the way orcas have. Rather than Sharks vs. Jets, maybe West Side Story should've featured Dolphins vs. Killer Whales. That would've been a rumble to remember...


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Max Habibi
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Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
That's a great story, Max. Thanks.

Yes, well, the Universe has seem fit to restore karmic balance to my worldview.
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Originally posted by Max Habibi:

Yes, well, the Universe has seem fit to restore karmic balance to my worldview.


So does this mean we can talk about politics again?


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How about injecting dolphins who redeem the souls into "Old Man and the Sea"?

Hate to spoil the party regarding the original story, but it seems unlikely that the dolphins would know much about the predator-prey relationship between sharks and men, much less about the virtues of altruism. If they have nothing less to do, I would suggest they (the dolphins) read "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand.
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JD: So does this mean we can talk about politics again?

Not until the trailboss becomes a dolphin.
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Just what is the predator-prey relationship between sharks and man? I be we eat more of them (shark's fin soup and such) than they eat of us ... maybe the dolphins should be protecting sharks from us?

I wonder if the dolphins can tell that we're warm blooded like they are. Or maybe it's just a bunch of teenage dolphins enjoying risky taunting of a shark, by denying it a meal of these big, harmless, overgrown frogs....
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Originally posted by John Smith:
How about injecting dolphins who redeem the souls into "Old Man and the Sea"?

Hate to spoil the party regarding the original story, but it seems unlikely that the dolphins would know much about the predator-prey relationship between sharks and men, much less about the virtues of altruism.


The later is debatable, certainly. The former is, I would think, intuitively clear to anyone who's ever owned a dog.

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Originally posted by Warren Dew:
Just what is the predator-prey relationship between sharks and man?


I suspect we eat much more shark, though the connection might be too subtle for flipper.
[ November 23, 2004: Message edited by: Max Habibi ]
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No intention to turn this thread into a "meaningful" one, but I'm deeply sorry for the sharks...

It was popular for upper class people in Southeast Asia (including Hongkong, Taiwan, Malaysia...) to eat shark fin before 1980's; but later, as the Chinese people got financially better off, shark fin gradually become popular in China. I had it myself, IMHO the flavour of shark fin is not too difficult to get from other sea food. And, scientifically, there's no special nutrition one can get from shark fin. I believe many people eat it just for vanity. Earlier this year I went back home for summer break, I read the old issues of Chinese National Geographics of this year my mother subscribed for me. On the cover of the Jan, 2004 issue, there was a huge shark, his mouth open, his body is struggling and his eyes look desparate. This "new year" issue is really miserable to me. The articles in the magazine says, tens of thousands sharks were killed merely for their fins during year 2003. To save the room in fishing boat, the shark hunters only took their fins and throw their wounded bodies back into sea. Most of the sharks die for being not able to control their bodies without the fins, they couldn't get up to get oxygen, and finally die in pain. Many of the shark fins are from Africa, although killing shark is illegal in many countries, there are too many merchants from Asia who pays a lot to the shark hunters, hence many fishing people are still hunting shark secretly. The magazine asks people not to eat shark fin any more, it's not only emotionally unacceptable but we are actually ruining our environment like crazy, we will eventually get punishment from the nature, and this "eventual" is really not too far away, according to the analysis in the magazine (I cannot remember the concrete data now). In the following issues I saw some readers' letter to the magazine, they said they are sorry for people's sheer selfishness and swear they would never eat shark fin again. That's good news but sadly there are still more and more restaurants advertise their shark fins as I saw...."Chinese National Geographics" is an excellent magazine with maximum honesty within our government's tolerance. Every issue discusses some serious environmental problems we are having, which will cause huge disasters very soon if we do not stop being stupid. It's still a long way for China to go to get really modernized, I have to say. More and more huge buildings in big cities are in fact superficial and I doubt things like those only boost people's vanity.

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Originally posted by Ellen Zhao:


It was popular for upper class people in Southeast Asia to eat shark fin before 1980's


suckers


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suckers

Nick George
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the sharks, that is
Richard Hawkes
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I guess those dolphin friendly tuna nets are starting to pay off.
Joe King
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Sounds a bit fishy to me.
 
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