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Jessica Sant
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Check out this TV ad for Citroen C4, highly entertaining.

click "see the TV ad"
Gerald Davis
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I don't know about you but I denna buy cars because I seeing wee dancing robot, especially if I ganna put it on a loan. I read magazine reviews and online review tests and test drive. Religion and commercialism try to appeal to your illogical self to acquire power and money, but it denna work with me matey.
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sweet, sweet video...


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Never been to England -- do you guys have highways over there? I looked at the specs of that thing, and it says that its 90hp engine takes 13.1 seconds to accelerate to 62mph. With that performance, I would be killed at the ramp every single day if I drove this car in the North Eastern US. No wonder they don't sell it over here.
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I heard that they're making one next where a Mini Cooper transforms into a Roomba.


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Jessica Sant
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Never Fear!!! For a few months now if you go to MINI's US website you can build your own MINI robot:

Build a MINI robot

here's mine:
Johannes de Jong
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Still promoting mini's hey Jess

As soon as my son leaves home.....

Naw the mini can wait, I rather like having him around.
Gerald Davis
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Dont pull on Superman's cape, dont spit into the wind, dont pull the mask off the ol' Lone Ranger, and you dont mess around with wee robots!
what More robot? do you want to toss them off or somthing.
Joe King
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Originally posted by John Smith:
Never been to England -- do you guys have highways over there?


In theory, yes. We call them motorways and you can legally go up to 70mph on them, although most people consider that to be a minimum speed target.

The reason why its only in theory is epitomised by the wonderful creation that is the M25. Its basically a motorway that forms a loop around London and is probably the world's largest car park for most of the day.
Joe King
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Is it me or has the writer of the advert copied Transformers a bit? I'm sure that car is called Optimus Prime or something like that.
Nick George
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Originally posted by Gerald Davis:
I don't know about you but I denna buy cars because I seeing wee dancing robot, especially if I ganna put it on a loan.


I know I'm sold.


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Helen Thomas
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The Citroen was originally a French design.
I think the original overturned bathtub design is so cute. Though I most probbaly wouldn't drive one. Renault is French too. Very versatile like a mini Land Rover.


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Jeroen Wenting
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Citroen for ages was well known for cars that were so sensitive to rust they were said to rust in the catalogue.

Historical tidbit: the brand was started by a Dutch entrepreneur and car fanatic by the name of Citroen (Dutch for lemon). When he could get no funding at home he moved to France where there was money to be had.

I'd never buy one, French cars are notorious for requiring lots of maintenance (my mother had a Citroen, it spent long periods in the shop for repairs until one day it failed, it had rusted right through major support beams from the inside).

Yes, Europe has highways. As said the speed limit here is higher than in the US and actual speeds are even higher, all that with smaller cars (a BMW 3 series is pretty impressive here).
But for many that speed is indeed theoretical as they spend most of their time in traffic jams.


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Jesse Torres
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Originally posted by Jessica Sant:
Check out this TV ad for Citroen C4, highly entertaining.

click "see the TV ad"


That is a beatiful car. It resembles a Toyota Matrix or a Suzuki.

BTW, does BMW own Mini?
Jessica Sant
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Originally posted by Jesse Torres:
BTW, does BMW own Mini?

Yup, -- if you look at the under side of my car 1/2 the parts are stamped "MINI" the others are stamped "BMW". Here in the states only select BMW dealerships can sell MINI's.
Helen Thomas
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The Lotus Elise is worth watching as it's apparently getting better and better each year. A new model is costly but it is the UK's answer to the Porsche and about half as expensive. Worth it if you can afford to remortgage the house.
[ December 07, 2004: Message edited by: Helen Thomas ]
Ashok Mash
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Originally posted by Helen Thomas:
The Lotus Elise is worth watching ..


Lotus also does a lot of components for at least 5 other major brands. And once they used to pretty good at F1 too!


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Axel Janssen
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Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:

I'd never buy one, French cars are notorious for requiring lots of maintenance (my mother had a Citroen, it spent long periods in the shop for repairs until one day it failed, it had rusted right through major support beams from the inside).

Not yet. They improved a lot the quality thing.
My father had a Citroen in the 70ties. Individual design, nice tools inside (for the time), but allways broken.
My sister worked for Citroen Germany in the mid 90ties and it was a dead company then.
Sidenote: In their canteen the french employees were allowed to dring 0.5 liter of vine. Same thing was prohibited to german employees, because not being accustomed to it culturally.
It had similar image like Chrysler before being bought by Mercedes: innovative company, but every 20 year on the brink of bancrupcy.
Somehow they managed to change and I hear a lot of positive things about Citroen, Renault and Peugeot.

Axel
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Ben Poole
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I've had a couple of Citroens in the past, and I've got one now. I've been very pleased with all of them, and they've not visited the local garage any more than any of my other cars (i.e. not very often). It does 0 - 62mph just fine :-)
Ellen Zhao
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when it comes to mini cars....anybody drives smart? more and more popular here.

anybody had the experience driving in germany, where there's no speed upper bound in highway?
Helen Thomas
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The Smart car. It was 2001/2002 when the smart car became trendy. Until then it was driven by old ladies. Now the older ones think it's gone too, too trendy yo rarely see them driving one.
Ellen Zhao
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oh yea. when i first saw it years ago, i thought it was a pure joke. if i strech my arms i can embrace the whole car only the most pioneer ppl drove it. but later when my eyes got used to its dimension, it became, to me, cuter and cuter.

it's speedy for its size. 200km per hour is a breeze and i really _saw_ people drive it that way in the local Autobahn. it's perfect for places where the park place is hard to find, for example, in universities, or in the downtown. and, if there's any traffic jam, smart seems run more smartly than any other cars. and, its outlet is just versatile. you can make it look traditional and you can make it rather future-oriented. almost every smart looks different. it's said the perfect "Stadtauto". the other day i was moving house, asked a friend to help me but his car is a smart finally we borrowed another car, a huge opel, if i don't remember wrong.
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Do you guys have highways over there? .... No wonder they don't sell it over here. - John Smith


- Yes but British cars (er - that has to be cars that are sold here nowadays ) are designed for our roads - they
tend to go around corners better. Your American muscle cars are great in straight lines. Take one of your best performance cars: the Corvette (historical always great sports cars - but I�m bias) C5, it still has leaf springs!!! - do you really think this will corner better than a Ferrari Enzo, or a Lotus Elise?

Mini's handle brilliantly, the older ones were a bit slow - so it was best to swap the gearbox with one from a smaller model, you got a low top speed - but great acceleration. Only problem was stopping - all drum brakes! In my local area, their was a Robin Reliant, that had had a engine swap - It was very quick, but I think it rolled off the road in the end....

As for UK motorways (highways)- arhhh! Last time I was driving in the south, one of the major roads for London had, together with the vast number of speed (read 'tax') cameras, a [empty] bus lane in the middle of it. � we will end up driving Sinclair C5s!

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American (arriving at hotel): "What a drive ... took 5 hours from London, couldn�t find the freeway, had to take a back street called the M5!"
Basil: "Sorry, if it was not wide enough for you, a lot of the English cars have steering wheels in them!"
American: They do, do they, you would not think their was room for them inside" -- [Faulty Towers]


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Peter Rooke
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I think there is a speed limit on the German autobahns - you can travel at a top speed that is safe for your car. So the German police may stop you if you are doing 160mph plus in a old banger / Larda.

Yes, I've driven on the German autobahns. Looks like fun, only I was driving
an old Land Rover, in a convoy, following a crane - all the way from England.
Someday, I'll like to take a proper car over there!
Axel Janssen
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Originally posted by Peter Rooke:

Someday, I'll like to take a proper car over there!

... but come Saturday or Sunday.
During the week the 1st and 2nd track belong to the fellow EU truck drivers.
Nothing against truck drivers. I prefer fast train for distances > 200 km anyway. Driving fast is simply to exausting.
I consider dangerous driving >180 km in a 2-track autobahn even with low traffic. I had 2 or 3 situations with trucks going to 2nd track and its not very funny (though no crash).
Also there are lots of speed limits today.
You see far less cars driving really fast now than 3 years ago, because people save gasoline.
Statistically autobahns are the by far safest roads. Most accidents happen with bad weather (I saw people passing me by with 200 in fog with sight of 40 meters or less) or in very straight autobahns like for example Hannover-Berlin, because people fell asleep while driving.
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Yes, wagons - got to admire them. Racing, and overtaking each other up hills doing 45mph.

But taking the train in the UK is not that good an option. Mostly best
to fly.

I've heard that it's as quick to travel on the Eurostar (train) from Paris into London, than it is to get into the city from the suburbs. Paris is a lot cheaper too.
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I'd never buy one, French cars are notorious for requiring lots of maintenance


That's an interesting type of knowledge about the world... we all "know" that, but where exactly did it come from?
Peter Rooke
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I've heard that working on older French cars can be difficult, as some models placed large engines into small engine bays. But this was true for most super-mini car types. The French do however, have a reputation for engineering in their own unique and special way! For example the 2CV.2CV

I'm currently driving around in a 22 year old Renault 5, its a great little
car. Talking to people about this model, I've only heard good things. Yes, it is starting to rust, but anything that age will (unless its a fiber glass car). [Austin Rover => (swap first letters) => R'ustin A'over ]

Maybe cars require lots of maintenance, to keep the people who maintain them in work. I've often wondered if cars are designed to fail to maintain the market. But this might just be a silly idea!
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I've heard that the word "awesome" (which appears in the subject line of this thread) has a different meaning in the UK and the US. In the US, it means "great, remarkable, outstanding". In the UK, it means "terrible, appalling, awful". Can a British national confirm that?
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Originally posted by John Smith:
I've heard that the word "awesome" (which appears in the subject line of this thread) has a different meaning in the UK and the US. In the US, it means "great, remarkable, outstanding". In the UK, it means "terrible, appalling, awful". Can a British national confirm that?


Is it?


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Helen Thomas
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BMW have a series of short films that's targeted purely to internet users.The HireThe Hire, a series of short films created by Hollywood�s finest talent.

Madonna stars in The Star. no link to it.
Joe King
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Originally posted by Peter Rooke:
Yes, wagons - got to admire them. Racing, and overtaking each other up hills doing 45mph.

But taking the train in the UK is not that good an option. Mostly best
to fly.

I've heard that it's as quick to travel on the Eurostar (train) from Paris into London, than it is to get into the city from the suburbs. Paris is a lot cheaper too.


Grrrr absolutely. My 6.5 mile commute (from south east London to central London) into work by train took me over an hour today because of problems on the trains. The trains in London and the south east of England are probably the least reliable in the country and probably also in western Europe. Pretty much every day one of either my work or home bound trains will be running late.

Its a disgrace really. We invented the bloody things but can't run our own system. A bit like cricket I suppose.
Joe King
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Originally posted by John Smith:
I've heard that the word "awesome" (which appears in the subject line of this thread) has a different meaning in the UK and the US. In the US, it means "great, remarkable, outstanding". In the UK, it means "terrible, appalling, awful". Can a British national confirm that?


I think its one of those words that has changed its meaning over the last few years. It can indeed be used to mean "terrible, appalling, awful", although recently the US government publicly used a similar word for this meaning - remember the "shock and awe" campaign? More recently, and this is probably the fault of films like Bill And Ted's XXX and Wayne's World, the American meaning has become used more. Saying that, its not a word that I hear often anyway.]
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Worst in the world, [maybe] - but that’s what you get for living in London .

PS - We invented the railways, but used the wrong track design. I believe Brunel had a better design; he used a wider track gauge. For financial reasons a smaller gauge was used. We could do with a few modern day Brunel's here today in the UK. Think they would move to America though!

- that’s enough trains – bad enough being a computer nerd, without turning into train spotter.
Peter Rooke
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Joe, you know the solution to your transport problems: New London Transport Vehicle - don't laugh I could see it happening

Lastly, I heard this rumour [can't provide evidence though!] that local governments, have a duty to try and activity discourage road use in towns and cities. They do this however they can - roadwork’s, traffic lights, bus lanes, etc. arrrrhhhhhhhhh! ([BTW] you Americans have a different meaning for word [in text]).
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Originally posted by Joe King:


I think its one of those words that has changed its meaning over the last few years. It can indeed be used to mean "terrible, appalling, awful", although recently the US government publicly used a similar word for this meaning - remember the "shock and awe" campaign?


In that context awe means respect. You're bound to be respectful to someone who can at his will land a 1000lb bomb in your backyard

No, this is not political commentary. The Iraqis did (or tried to do) the same sending rockets into Saudi in '91.
Joe King
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Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:
In that context awe means respect. You're bound to be respectful to someone who can at his will land a 1000lb bomb in your backyard


Interesting how the phrase can be looked at in two different ways. I took it to mean something like "shock and terrify". Thinking back to when the phrase was first used, I remember it causing a bit of concern and confusion world wide. Perhaps this difference in meaning was the cause of this confusion - the USA meant that the purpose was to make the Iraqis respect them, but people in some other countries took it to mean that the USA wanted the Iraqis to be terrified of them.
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who was it that said that fear breeds respect?

I think it was Stalin, but I'm not sure if he was the first (it's something he would say though, fits his character).
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Cits are cool. I had a Jr High teacher who made his go up and down (pneumatic suspension) while stopped in traffic just to get funny looks from people. Then he'd say, Pardon me, is your car going down? and drive off.


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