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Jessica Sant
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We had quite a lovely little snow storm this weekend! It reminds me of all the great storms we got in Salt Lake while I was growing up.... only difference is here, a foot of snow cripples the city, and in Salt Lake, its all the more reason to drive up to the mountains!


I think we got about a foot of snow:


My cat thought it was interesting, but wasn't a fan of the snow blowing in his face. He was also a bit worried that the snow was as tall as him.


Any body else got snow pictures?
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Jeroen Wenting
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Noticed when walking to the car this morning that it was slightly white. About a millimeter had falled during the night which had since frozen into a pulp and was already melting away.

At the moment there's a tiny dusting going on, no more than a slight annoyance but probably enough to cause nationwide trafficjams (this morning the trafficjams were about 5 times the usual for a monday morning, and that when the roads were clear...).


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Axel Janssen
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yesterday at about 20:30 when I looked out of the window there were a lot of snow in the air for the first time this year. In the morning it was still there (about 5 centimeters, not like in your pictures). Now its all melted away.
Bacon
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We got around 18 inches here in western NY, depending on your elevation.

I did't take any pictures. Unfortunatly its hardly worth mentioning around these parts! Well it did close a few churches. It was not really insignificant, but not extraordinary either. You would think that people would stay home in the middle of a blizzard. I went out to run some errands and the roads were packed, just like any other Saturday. What a bunch of lunatics. Wait a minute...

I have a picture, from a couple years ago, where I had to dig down to expose my mail box.
Jason Menard
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Originally posted by Axel Janssen:
(about 5 centimeters, not like in your pictures)


That's probably about the same as in Jess's pictures. Don't forget, her car's a Mini.
Thomas Paul
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I'll put up some pictures tonight. Here is a "during the snow" picture:



We got about 20 inches.
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Madhav Lakkapragada
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It was supposed to hit the Ohio valley but later the weather man said it was moving east rather than south-east. So we had a good time here.
Just a bit of dusting (mostly blowing snow).

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Ellen Zhao
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Originally posted by Axel Janssen:
yesterday at about 20:30 when I looked out of the window there were a lot of snow in the air for the first time this year. In the morning it was still there (about 5 centimeters, not like in your pictures). Now its all melted away.


Axel which state are you in? Here by me just the same. Last night when I went back home from my girlfriend's at around 0:00, it was snowing heavily, I did expect something like Jessica's pictures this morning, but...na it will snow again according to wetter.de. let's see.
Axel Janssen
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@Ellen: Hannover, south of Lower Saxony (according to leo.de).
Snow is nice. What I don't like is the cold.
Everything under +10 celcius is too cold.
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Gail Mikels
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Well, I'm really tired of people who live in the snow whining about it. I mean - I live in "beautiful" San Diego. We have some serious weather too, but no one ever hears about it. Just check out this picture of some of the very serious damage we had during our last big wind & rain storm!

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Gail Mikels
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Its just part of the package.

I have friends in warm climates who think I'm nuts to live in the snow belt.

Other than a devastating ice storm every ten years or so, we get along just fine. There are a lot of natural disasters and weather that we don't get: hurricane, flood, forest fires, tornadoes, 100+ degree heat (more rare than ice storms) earthquakes, volcanoes.

What is paralyzing snow to some areas is routine for us. They have the plows and other equipment to deal with it. Its all a matter of being prepared.

However, I have to admit that the snow is winning and my back is losing. Think I'll break down and get a snow thrower.
Warren Dew
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Here's a page with some pictures of our cars before they got dug out:

http://www.powderhouse.com/~wdew/personal/snowstorm20050123

Ray Marsh:

However, I have to admit that the snow is winning and my back is losing. Think I'll break down and get a snow thrower.

I figure we just need more snowstorms. If we had one a week, I'm sure my shoulders would be in good shape to tackle one by the end of the winter.

Apparently we're scheduled for more snow on Wednesday.
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I was all grins in my little Subaru today. A late afternoon cool-down & dusting left the road up the hill from work to the highway nasty slick. A handful of cars were slipping and sliding trying to get enough traction to get up the hill and I just tooled on by. Little AWD cars make so much sense.


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Ben Souther
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We had 84 mile an hour winds. I'm a 1/4 from the coast. Because of the wind and the fence patterns in my neighborhood, my next door neighbor has a bare yard and driveway. Mine was over my head in some places and my Jeep (which is pretty tall) was buried.

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peter wooster
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Originally posted by Stan James:
I was all grins in my little Subaru today. A late afternoon cool-down & dusting left the road up the hill from work to the highway nasty slick. A handful of cars were slipping and sliding trying to get enough traction to get up the hill and I just tooled on by. Little AWD cars make so much sense.


What I've seen of AWD and 4WD is that they often give their drivers a false sense or power and security in bad conditions. This weekend, when driving in the snow storm in a Camry with snow tires, I was passed on the right (snow packed zone) by a 4WD pickup truck with a plow on the front, he did the same to the next car and lost it, skidded out over 45 degrees and only barely stayed on the road.

In a previous much worse storm, (when the mayor of Toronto called out the army) a driver with a sport ute was the only person foolish enough to brave our street, he got into the middle of the block and got himself stuck up to the axles, 4 wheel spin action, lots of laughter from the people shovelling their walks, we eventually decided to help him out, but it was a difficult choice.

BTW I actually like Subaru's, they're a very good choice for bad weather if you know thier limits.
Bacon
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Driving in snow is a skill. The tool is the vehicle. If you have skill then a good 4wd or AWD helps. If you don't then its just more power in the hands of someone that doesn't know what to do with it.

I have lived and driven in the snow belt all my life and never owned a 4wd. I have nothing against them and may get one someday. The point is, you don't need one if you know what you're doing.

Unskilled drivers do two things in snow, drive too fast or drive too slow and both are dangerous. It is matter of understanding the traction you have to work with, how your vehile behaves with and using both properly. It also doesn't hurt to be able to recognise road conditions.
Warren Dew
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peter wooster:

What I've seen of AWD and 4WD is that they often give their drivers a false sense or power and security in bad conditions.

As my wife is fond of saying, "four wheel drive doesn't help with braking and cornering." I think quite a few SUV and pickup truck drivers fail to realize this.
Jeroen Wenting
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It's not just that. They fail to realise that without proper training you're not going to drive that thing like the guys in the army or the Camel Trophy can.
Bacon
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Its snowing again today, did yesterday and the day before that and... oh yeah the day before that too. Good thing its not really cold out... wait a minute, yes it is.

The older I get, the sooner I get tired of winter. Its only January!

Bought some studded snow tires for my car on Monday, good idea, shoulda done it years ago. Will go shopping for a snow thrower, this weekend.

Spend time dreaming of warm places with a sun that actually makes you warm, not the one we get that hurts your eyes and only mocks you with a false promise of heat.

I'm just whining. Come hurricane season I'll be glad I live here.
Helen Thomas
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It snowed heavily in Northern Spain - and a rarity - in Madeira where it hasn't snowed in forty years or longer to the horror of sun-shine seekers.
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Ashok Mash
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It snowed more than 10 inches last Thursday night in Livigno, Italy. It was fantastic!!


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Bacon
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Originally posted by Ashok Mash:
It snowed more than 10 inches last Thursday night in Livigno, Italy. It was fantastic!!


Ashok... Believe me, the novelty wears thin very quickly. Last year it snowed every day for 22 days straight, 1 day short of a record. Most days between 4 and 8 inches. It got old after 3 days. The most amazing thing was that the schools did not close once. In fact there were zero snow days last season, although there were two days on account of temperature. It was, oh yeah, single digits with double digit below wind chills. Brrrr!
Ashok Mash
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Originally posted by Ray Marsh:


Ashok... Believe me, the novelty wears thin very quickly.


I can totally accept that! Last three days of my holiday was spent running between the apartment and the clinic as my partner injured her hamstring after falling badly on hard snow! Making my way through 12 inches of fresh snow, holding the hood in place to protect me from the snow blizzard that seems to have an attitude problem, avoiding drunk skiers and tired Italian drivers, I did think I could do with out all that snow!!

PS: Jessica, never seen a cat on leash before! Is that normal?
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Jessica Sant
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Originally posted by Ashok Mash:
PS: Jessica, never seen a cat on leash before! Is that normal?


It is for them When I first got my cat, I lived in an apartment on a relativly busy street corner. He wanted to go outside soooo badly, but I didn't trust him to not get smacked by a car. So since he was about 8 weeks old he's walked on a leash. Because its always been that way, he doesn't know that its weird. In fact -- as soon as I pull out his leash he starts rubbing on my legs and meowing at me, sometimes he'll even sit at front of the door and meow -- wanting to go for a walk .

When we got our 2nd cat, we did the same with her. So, its the best of both worlds -- they get to go outside, and I don't have to worry they're gonna get killed by a car.
Bacon
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Ugh! -7f and wind chill of -20f, last night.

I can take the snow, but its so cold that your eyebrows freeze stiff.
Thomas Paul
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Ray, where in western NY are you? My sister used to live in Geneva. From the snow, I'm guessing you are closer to Buffalo.
Bacon
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Ray, where in western NY are you? My sister used to live in Geneva. From the snow, I'm guessing you are closer to Buffalo.


Rochester.

We have an unofficial annual competition for the "Golden Snow Shovel", between Syracuse, Rochester and Buffalo. The winner is the city with the most inches of snow in a season. Its an award that no one really wants to win!
Madhav Lakkapragada
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Originally posted by Ray Marsh:


Rochester.

We have an unofficial annual competition for the "Golden Snow Shovel", between Syracuse, Rochester and Buffalo. The winner is the city with the most inches of snow in a season. Its an award that no one really wants to win!


Sounds just like those cities in MN. It was on the news (PBS, NOW, I think) just today. Embaress (?), MN and Temple (?), MN. Something like that. They compete for the coldest city in MN. I would love to go there ONCE. I think the coldest was about 60 below or something like that.

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Yeah... at 60 below you can throw a cup of boiling water in the air and it turns to ice dust! I saw it on TV once, somewhere in Norway or Sweden.

Fortunately we don't have to deal with that type of weather around here.
 
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