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Firefox breaks 20,000,000 downloads!

Sudharsan Govindarajan
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Yes. Firefox has been downloaded twenty million times in just 76 days. ooh!

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Arjun Shastry
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What is Firefox?


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Helen Thomas
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I guess M$ IE 6 had started playing up that everyone is using Firefox OR there are 20 million geeks.


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R K Singh
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Originally posted by Helen Thomas:
I guess M$ IE 6 had started playing up that everyone is using Firefox OR there are 20 million geeks.


20 m downloads means 10 m user .. still its a big achievement..


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Ashok Mash
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Originally posted by Arjun Shastry:
What is Firefox?


And what is this "Internet" that everyone is talking about?


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Thomas Paul
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I'm not sure how many users 20 million downloads mean. I have downloaded it about 10 times. My guess is that it is not widely used even in the geek community because it still represents only a tiny percentage of people who visit JavaRanch (who should be mostly anti-MS geeks).


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Jeroen Wenting
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
people who visit JavaRanch (who should be mostly anti-MS geeks).


why Paul?

I'd consider people visiting Javaranch (or most development communities) to be reasonably intelligent people overall and reasonably intelligent people should be above such petty things like Microsoft hatred...

Maybe I'm too optimistic about the maturity level of the average visitor of this site though and it has indeed declined to the level of slashdot in which case I will have to find somewhere else to haunt...


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Jeroen Wenting
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and as to 20 million downloads. I guess they include all the alpha and beta releases in that number.
The hardcore users will have downloaded them all, often several times (for different systems).
Many web developers may have downloaded it to test cross browser compatibility.
A LOT of people will have tried it after the hype in the media and abandoned it.

If that 20 million downloads equates to a million users I think it's a lot...
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[JW]: and as to 20 million downloads. I guess they include all the alpha and beta releases in that number.

The numbers are specifically for Firefox 1.0, since its official release on November 9.

[TP]: I'm not sure how many users 20 million downloads mean. I have downloaded it about 10 times.

You've downloaded some version of Firefox 10 times? Or you've downloaded 1.0 10 times? Personally I've downloaded 1.0 twice - once at home, and once at work.
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Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
You've downloaded some version of Firefox 10 times? Or you've downloaded 1.0 10 times? Personally I've downloaded 1.0 twice - once at home, and once at work.
Firefox 1.0 about 10 times on three computers.
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Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:
why Paul?
You haven't noticed an anti-MS bias in the Java world?
Sania Marsh
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The download button on the FF main page doesn't work for Macs (OS10) . We had to download 10-15 times until we got it to work.
We are testing the javascripts so each developer on Mac spent about 2-3 hours just trying to download different versions of it.
about 200-300 of those downloads can be blamed just on my team of 18, unless they count IP addresses instead of actual downloads
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"Explorer currently has 90.3% of the US market, but Firefox has grabbed an extra 1% in just a month, demonstrating take-up that is starting to snowball. It is estimated that almost 20m Firefox browsers have been downloaded worldwide in the last 10 weeks" From - ComputerWeekly.com
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Vicken Karaoghlanian
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Originally posted by Arjun Shastry:
What is Firefox?




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Originally posted by Rita Moore:
The download button on the FF main page doesn't work for Macs (OS10) . We had to download 10-15 times until we got it to work.
We are testing the javascripts so each developer on Mac spent about 2-3 hours just trying to download different versions of it.
about 200-300 of those downloads can be blamed just on my team of 18, unless they count IP addresses instead of actual downloads

[ January 25, 2005: Message edited by: Rita Moore ]


Ah the curse of javascript. I was trying to download firefox from on a friend's computer, but I couldn't find the link to download it anywhere in the site. Eventually I looked at the source of the page and noticed that it was downloaded using javascript. This confused me more as the browser I was using had javascript turned on. It turned out that the computer had a rogue virus checking programme on it that was blocking javascript without settings IE's javascript flag to "off". The webpage was asking IE if it could view javascript and IE was replying "yes" even though it couldn't.

Probably about 90% of the problems I've found using websites have come down to shoddy javascript. I detest it. In the vast majority of cases where it is used, you can tell that someone just wanted some flashy special effect that could have been done in a much better non-javascript way. The most annoying use of it has to be in hotmail, where all the links in emails get replaced with javascript functions to open new windows. Grrrr


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Jeroen Wenting
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
You haven't noticed an anti-MS bias in the Java world?


Not generally among people who are worthy of respect...
Intelligent people like I said should be above such petty hatred borne out of jealousy and wanting to be part of the hax0rz community.
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and by the way........

it happens to be a case that I might have installed FF countless times as I started playing around extensions writing, manually manipulating profile files directly from the directories...hosting multiple FF on the machines...

FF extension mechanism so cool. Thats what I call a vision. Vision that helps people customize things in useful way and feel on top of the world by manipulating something which is totally written by somebody else...Definitely this is lot better feeling than virus writing (though I am bereft of the virus writing feeling given my weak system level programming)

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Sudharsan Govindarajan
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Another 1 million downloads of Firefox in just 4 more days. Do we still keep chanting that Firefox is a geek stuff?
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I was one of those who downloaded FireFox over the weekend.

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Jeroen Wenting
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Originally posted by Sudharsan G'rajan:
Another 1 million downloads of Firefox in just 4 more days. Do we still keep chanting that Firefox is a geek stuff?


we downloaded 2 copies at work today to see if our applications would work with it.
None of them did. In fact FF couldn't even reach one of our servers (which using IE from the same machine was perfectly reachable, we'd told FF to import the settings from IE).
Another we could get to but none (and I mean none) of the Javascript would work and neither would part of the CSS.
The CSS specifically I had doublechecked to confirm to W3 specs, the Javascript uses some IE specific functions in places but even places that don't use IE specific stuff didn't work...

So ditch one browser, despite 2 more downloads...
Sudharsan Govindarajan
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Jeroen,

Are you behind a proxy and a firewall? The no-proxy list in IE and FF are different. So FF might not have imported the no-proxy list (I am not even sure if it does import this list at all). Do check your no-proxy list and make sure your server is in that list.
Reg. CSS, that should not have happened. Can you point me to some valid CSS that FF does'nt support?

Thanks
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yes, the server is mentioned in the proxy bypass list.
Other servers in the same list are reached.
Only difference is this server uses a numeric ip address instead of a hostname.

As to nonworking code, it may be CSS or whatever, but http://hornet.demon.nl/screenshots/ (which is a prototype for our menu structure I designed on a weekend) doesn't work in FF.
The W3 CSS and XHTML validators say it's good code and it works fine in IE.
FF reports nonexistent objects, which is in error.
Doug Wang
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Hi All,

I am expecting FireFox to open a new Tab instead of a new Window when I click a link (e.g. a link on this page). How can I achieve that?

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Madhav Lakkapragada
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Originally posted by Doug Wang:
Hi All,

I am expecting FireFox to open a new Tab instead of a new Window when I click a link (e.g. a link on this page). How can I achieve that?

Doug.


When you right click on a link, 'Open link in a new tab' is one of the options. Atleast it is on my version (1.0) of FireFox.

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Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by Doug Wang:
Hi All,

I am expecting FireFox to open a new Tab instead of a new Window when I click a link (e.g. a link on this page). How can I achieve that?

Doug.


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Thomas Paul
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Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:
As to nonworking code, it may be CSS or whatever, but http://hornet.demon.nl/screenshots/ (which is a prototype for our menu structure I designed on a weekend) doesn't work in FF.
The W3 CSS and XHTML validators say it's good code and it works fine in IE.
FF reports nonexistent objects, which is in error.


We have the same problem with one of our pages. Works fine in Netscape and IE but doesn't work in Firefox.
Sudharsan Govindarajan
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Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:
yes, the server is mentioned in the proxy bypass list.
Other servers in the same list are reached.
Only difference is this server uses a numeric ip address instead of a hostname.

This is peculiar. Cos, I use both numeric addresses and host names in my no-proxy list and it works fine


As to nonworking code, it may be CSS or whatever, but http://hornet.demon.nl/screenshots/ (which is a prototype for our menu structure I designed on a weekend) doesn't work in FF.
The W3 CSS and XHTML validators say it's good code and it works fine in IE.
FF reports nonexistent objects, which is in error.


I couldn't reach the URL. Anyways this seems to be a serious issue, let me report it to the FF folks. It would be easy if I have a live URL.

-Sudharsan
Jeroen Wenting
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Yah, it's temporarilly down as I shut down my machine last night for an upgrade and forgot to turn it on again this morning...

The code is rather simple.

That's all the JS.


hmm, UBB doesn't understand how to post html as code, trying to interpret it...
[ February 02, 2005: Message edited by: Jeroen Wenting ]
 
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