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Windows XP SP 2 - need serious help....

Madhav Lakkapragada
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Folks,

Is it worth installing SP2, for Windows XP ?
Last week our laptop seems to have gone from bad to worse.
Seems like MS updates are self destructing. You download a critical update and install it, boom IE stops working. Basically the whole system now hangs.

On top of all this some weird trojans seem to have been installed and they are killing the system. Opening numerous pop-ups, some 'enhanced search' thingy, ezulo or something like that, Second thought all sorts of crap.

I just downloaded FireFox and tried to uninstall IE. That I think drove the last nail in the coffin.

So I am now wondering, the only choice for me is to download SP2.
Any thoughts aare greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

- m


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Gregg Bolinger
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SP2 isn't going to fix all the problems you described, though I would still recommend going to SP2. Honestly, with what you are saying, I would suggest rebuilding the laptop. If that is REALLY not an option, then you need to install something like Adaware or PestPatrol and try and get rid of the appearnt spyway/adware that has infected your PC.

FYI - you can't uninstall IE. The only thing you can do is just stop using it. SP2 does make IE a bit safer. But nothing is as safe as not using it at all.

The problem with not going to SP2 is that eventually, MS will stop sending out patches for non-SP2 machines. So eventually you won't get any patches at all.

Again, I would rebuild. Update to SP2 as soon as it is rebuilt. I have been running it sense it's official release with no problems.


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Jeroen Wenting
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The only trouble we've had in our company (60+ workstations, plus the hundreds we maintain for customers) is that the new security measures in IE introduced with SP2 cause some of our more complex Javascript functions to sometimes fail.

We're close to having a workaround for that though.


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Peter Rooke
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You could choicse the service pack Sick of Windows - Try Linux!.
But seriously it may be worth considering, Linux can be a pain but it is getting easier to use.

PS - I don't want this topic to degenerate into Linux vrs Windows; I think these tend to be pointless. For some things Windows is best for others Linux is more 'fit for purpose'.


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Jeroen Wenting
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Originally posted by Peter Rooke:

PS - I don't want this topic to degenerate into Linux vrs Windows; I think these tend to be pointless. For some things Windows is best for others Linux is more 'fit for purpose'.


Then why do you post your plug for Linux in the first place which is the quite obvious start of such a flamewar and usually intended to be...
Madhav Lakkapragada
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Originally posted by Peter Rooke:
You could choicse the service pack Sick of Windows - Try Linux!.
But seriously it may be worth considering, Linux can be a pain but it is getting easier to use.


Actually this is my wife's notebook and I can't put linux here as her school wouldn't support that. Thanks for the suggestion.



FYI - you can't uninstall IE. The only thing you can do is just stop using it. SP2 does make IE a bit safer. But nothing is as safe as not using it at all.

The problem with not going to SP2 is that eventually, MS will stop sending out patches for non-SP2 machines. So eventually you won't get any patches at all.


I am not sure what I did, but in the setup/update window, I unselected IE. The had more trouble, so I went back and re-selected IE.

After updating about 18 patches, it prompted me to update to SP2 and I am in the proces of doing that. SP2 download 52% complte.
Thanks for the suggestions.

- m


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Madhav Lakkapragada
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Intalled SP2 but still can't run 'explorer'. Not just IE, can't browse files using 'windows explorer', nor can I open the Control panel.

Downloaded Firefox and so I can use that to do some file browsing.
Arrrggggggg......I will shut it down now and take a second look later on.

Has anyone called MS hotline anyime, wonder if they have a 800 number. Ah well, I will check later.

- m
Gregg Bolinger
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Originally posted by Madhav Lakkapragada:
Intalled SP2 but still can't run 'explorer'. Not just IE, can't browse files using 'windows explorer', nor can I open the Control panel.

Downloaded Firefox and so I can use that to do some file browsing.
Arrrggggggg......I will shut it down now and take a second look later on.

Has anyone called MS hotline anyime, wonder if they have a 800 number. Ah well, I will check later.

- m


REBUILD! You are (and already have) going to waste too much time trying to fix something that will never be 100% fixed. Just put the XP cd back in and rebuild the whole thing. I promise you it will be easier.
peter wooster
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Originally posted by Madhav Lakkapragada:
Intalled SP2 but still can't run 'explorer'. Not just IE, can't browse files using 'windows explorer', nor can I open the Control panel.

Downloaded Firefox and so I can use that to do some file browsing.
Arrrggggggg......I will shut it down now and take a second look later on.

Has anyone called MS hotline anyime, wonder if they have a 800 number. Ah well, I will check later.

- m


I had a major hassle with IE on W2K. It stopped working properly and could not even load its patches or a newer version. I got a new full version from our IT support department, installed that and it all started to work again. I also switched to FireFox for all those things that don't really require IE.

On the Linux vs Windows front. I use W2K, WinXP, Linux and Solaris-Sparc at home and the same plus OS390 at work. They all have their good points and bad points. Linux and Solaris rarely crash, are less prone to malware and generally perform better than Windows. Windows has much better choice for desktop software and is much easier to use. As you know fsck is a dirty 4 letter word.
Madhav Lakkapragada
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For now, I am not rebuilding it. I am able to reboot it without problems. Also, since Firefox is working good so far, I am letting it slip. After some deep thinking I realized, while uninstalling some of those adwares things, I was prompted about shared DLL's and I said "yes-to-all". Sounds like some of those are shared by IE. OUCH!!!

I will give it one more chance to try and recover, if not, I will have to back-up data and REBUILD.
Thanks.

- m
 
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