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Is it legal ?

Jaime Garcia
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My Boss want me to prepare a Java course, The course is only for guys at the office. I have already prepared the course but I need to prepare some excersises.

My Question is, I have some books of Java, one of them has exercises and questionnaires(Sun Certified Programmer & Developer for Java 2 Study Guide (Exam 310-035 & 310-027) by Kathy Sierra, Bert Bates) by the way, great book.

Is it legal to take some (not all, of course) exercises for the course ?.

Of course I'll tell them where I got the excersises and I will give them only a printed version of them and just a couple of exercises.

Nathan Hook
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Are you making money from this course?

If you are then no. If you arn't and the course in only internal. I personally wouldn't worry about it. But I would still reference your source.

Best of Luck,

Gregg Bolinger
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I would email Bert and Kathy and ask them.

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Jaime Garcia
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I am not making money for this course, just saving money to my Boss , I will take your advice and mail the authors.

Mike Curwen
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We once had a similar exercise where I worked.

The goal was to get us all SCJP. So everyone in the shop was bought a RHE book. The book simply came out of the training budget.

If your place of employment is serious about training, they'll have a budget. The cost of (employees * SCWCD Book) is seriously *WAY LESS* than (employees * sun training) or (employees * training consultant). So I'd push for your boss to just buy copies of the book.
Jeroen Wenting
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Well said. Else you'd end up with effectively making photocopies of the entire book for everyone which certainly is NOT allowed.

This practice has in fact become so prevalent that the government here has introduced a tax on photocopiers for companies.
For every person in the company an amount has to be paid per year based on an estimated number of copies those people make out of books and magazines. Only if you can provide hard evidence you don't make that many copies is the charge waived (for example, if you can prove you don't have a copier or can provide records showing it is used rarely).

Jaime Garcia
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You are right, I think buying a good book is the cheapest and most of the times best way to get prepare. There are some guys that have never use Java, so the course it's just an introduction. I'll recomend the book so, if they really want to become a SCJP, they'll have an idea where to start. I'll get some copies but just of a couple of excersices (no copies from chapters) and, of course, giving the credits.

I took a course a couple of years ago and I lerned less than a half that reading the book, and the course was really expensive (but I have a Diploma :confused . So, the best way, I think, is reading and practicing or thaking courses If your Boss is going to pay .

Thanks all.
Jesse Torres
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Try Bruce Eckel's Free Thinking in Java book. You can download a copy for free from:
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