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Helen Thomas
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- give them ready meals with added substances like Sudan 1


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peter wooster
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Originally posted by Helen Thomas:
- give them ready meals with added substances like Sudan 1


This has caused a lot of concern in Canada, where many British products are imported, and the press has typically shot the messenger. The real culprit is lax food standards in India, where a dye intended for industrial use, gets added to chili powder. We searched our cupboards after reviewing
the lists posted on this FSA siteand this 2 year old list which adds a bunch more things. We only had to throw out one can of Rajah Tandoori Masala.
[ February 28, 2005: Message edited by: peter wooster ]
Helen Thomas
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The good news is that quantities used weren't high enough to give anyone leukemia or cancer (observed in rats given the substance).
The bad news is that people aren't put off ready meals - the same ingredients are used for shrimp sauce and gravy added to a lamb dinner with different added colourings and other preservatives.

Premier Foods' shares didn't suffer because they appeared to own up and put in corrective measures unlike Coca Cola and Perrier who dragged their feet after contamination claims and saw share prices tumble.

Premier Foods also make Branston pickle - no added Sudan 1. phew.
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peter wooster
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Most of the Premier foods products don't make it here, and we always buy Lea and Perrins Worcestershire sauce. What worries me is the large number of Indian products that we use. I did read that the Indian government recently shut down a number of exporters over this issue, so there are people watching it from the supply side as well.
Dave Lenton
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Originally posted by Helen Thomas:
The bad news is that people aren't put off ready meals - the same ingredients are used for shrimp sauce and gravy added to a lamb dinner with different added colourings and other preservatives.


There seems to be a slight irony in the fact that people who would already have been eating healthy fresh food will not be effected as much by this.

Its a shame that so many people eat that pre-process rubbish. No wonder so many kids are overweight and hyperactive considering how much salt and sugar they are consuming each meal time. The sad thing is that some people actually prefer the taste of these packets of flavoured mashed up cardboard. Incredible.

I can understand why some people like the time saving aspect of pre-prepared meals, but its not that hard to bung together a healthy meal quickly - a good stir fry can take only minutes to prepare and cook. Maybe people are getting lazy, or under more pressure from work etc.... but this seems to be increasing. I recently saw in a shop a frozen microwavable cheese and ham baguette. Incredible - I can't believe that people don't have the time to cut a baguette in half and slap some cheese and ham into it.


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Helen Thomas
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I started making bread recently - had some flour left over from baking for a child's birthday party over a year ago.

Simple , takes about the same time you need to cook frozen dough. I'm also getting used to the taste of no salt. The thought of churning my own butter crossed my mind but I might have to draw the line there. This kind of behaviour is acceptable in the extremities of Ireland or Wales.
Much better than going to the gym, still. Depends what one goes to the gym for.
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Arjunkumar Shastry
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Food minister recently said here that those samplings must be quite old which found Sudan1.Atlwast on their website testing of samples for Sudan1 is mandatory since 2004.


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Ashok Mash
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Considering the fact that most of the spices exported out of India is the best it can offer, if there is any study or research into the effect of Sudan1 or such harmful stuff that a billion or so ordinary Indians consume � its even more worrying since Indians tend to use a lot more spices compared to the west � I would imagine an average family of four in certain parts of India would consume 100 grams or more red chilli powder every month!!


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peter wooster
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Originally posted by Ashok Mash:
Considering the fact that most of the spices exported out of India is the best it can offer, if there is any study or research into the effect of Sudan1 or such harmful stuff that a billion or so ordinary Indians consume � its even more worrying since Indians tend to use a lot more spices compared to the west � I would imagine an average family of four in certain parts of India would consume 100 grams or more red chilli powder every month!!


According to the Telegraph-Calcutta Feb 23 the Spices Board of India has taken action against 3 more exporters, this is in addition to the 5 that were shut down back in Nov 2003 over the last Sudan dye scare.
peter wooster
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Originally posted by Dave Lenton:
There seems to be a slight irony in the fact that people who would already have been eating healthy fresh food will not be effected as much by this.
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This affects those who make their own healthy fresh food and happen to like to add a bit of spice to it. In the summer, one of our favorite BBQ items is Tandoori chicken, made by marinating chicken pieces for several hours in a mixture of Tandoori Masala and yogurt. Our favorite Tandoori Masala turned out to have Sudan dye in it. Might as well have just gone to McD's.
 
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