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RoR Vs Python+Zope Vs J2EE

siva kumar
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Hi...

I would like to know if it is true that RoR will take over J2EE;

Will any company really scarp (migerate) their existing J2EE investment/Project and move to RoR.

What about Big Companies they should be working on Application Servers such as weblogic websphere ect to atleast provide a provisions for RoR.

Or is there anyone really working on a commerical product on RoR implimentation as in case of Java.

Now where does python+zope really stacks up.

Are these new technologys really used for Enterprise buzz sol or just for POC proof of concept ( Prototyping)

Is it really wise to invest your time in RoR/ Python+zope technology

I happen to develop a small project using python- Frankly it is amazing

Java Sucks "really sucks" when compared to python.
Programming in python really is painless, and easy

But is it worth investing your time and money in these technologies???
Arvind Mahendra
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I like RoR and PHP.


I want to be like marc
Joe Harry
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Java Sucks "really sucks" when compared to python.


Maybe true for a guy who does not understand Java...


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siva kumar
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May be it could be true for a guy who understands python... hey just kidding.

I did not ment to start a lang war, but frankly I find python easier to use than java,

It may be so ... because it is a scripting language, or may be python suits the way I think,

I am not a Java expert... nor a python expert, just try developing a small project in python and see....
siva kumar
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What about the future... any suggestions or any stats
Tamas Jano
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Originally posted by siva kumar:
What about the future... any suggestions or any stats


You make your own future and you can influence other's as well or you can go with the herd. Predictions were many in the past and just a fraction of what is today can be related to something foretold before and only briefly.

If you consider learning a technology as an investment to secure your future then I don't know what to say, everything is uncertain and never know what's around the corner.

My advice is to develop a thinking and understanding oriented towards solving problems and seek efficiency being technology independent.

Python may solve you a problem easier than Java and that's true vice-versa. Ask yourself what is probable that you will be facing in the future and master those tools that will help you solve those things.
siva kumar
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Ask yourself what is probable that you will be facing in the future and master those tools that will help you solve those things


Hmm Never taught of those things...

Any way thanks... for the reply
[ September 24, 2007: Message edited by: siva kumar ]
pete stein
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Originally posted by siva kumar:
What about the future... any suggestions or any stats


Learn one new programming language a year.
Robert Hill
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RoR does have the potential to seriously challenge J2EE. Remember, it is only 3 years old or so and needs lots more work and testing to be acceptable to companies now relying on EE.

I seriously doubt companies would trash all the work and money and jump into rails or anything else. If RoR does eventually take over the enterprise space(not even close to a certain thing), Java will still be around for a long, long, long time. At worst, there will be thousands and thousands of jobs to maintain all this Java code, and EE will still be used. After all, J2EE isn't the only enterprise framwork(s) being used. Fortran is still used today in specialized areas, and there is still a lot of legacy Fortran to maintain.

Is it worth it? Yes and no, depending on your goals. If you are interested in creating small-ish web sites, I think a person would be nuts to use anything but Rails. Servlets is overkill for small projects and PHP is a security mess and encourages poorly written and designed web pages. I don't know enough about Zope to comment.

If you want to get a enterprise level job, you would be nuts to not learn J2EE.

Then again, you would be nuts to only learn one language/framework. I haven't seen statistics, but it would not surprise me to learn that most programming projects use multiple languages.
 
 
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